Should I Get a Yamaha or a Harley?

I'm riding a 2004 Yamaha Road Star Silverado right now. I like it a lot. But my wife seems to want something more comfortable. Basic...

I'm riding a 2004 Yamaha Road Star Silverado right now. I like it a lot. But my wife seems to want something more comfortable.

Basically, she wants the big comfy backrest and armrests, like what you get on the Harley Davidson Electra Glide Classic or Ultra Glide. What she wants, is to be able to go to sleep while riding on the road, and not have to worry about falling over.

As it stands right now, she often drifts off to sleep while riding on the back of my Road Star, but not for long. What happens is that she bangs the crown of her helmet into my back, as her way of complaining to me. I keep telling her, "then don't ride". But she won't have that. She has to ride.

So, here are my three choices...

Yamaha Royal Star Venture - this is probably the Cadillac of touring bikes, as far I can see. 1300cc V4 engine, with about 75hp at the rear wheel. Large hard bags, large trunk, comfy seats, with the large back rest and arm rests, and full fairing. Price is about $15,000.

Pros: This bike will give my wife the comfort she's looking for, and it comes with everything but the kitchen sink. It's got great power.

Cons: I can barely touch the ground! My legs are that short. The seat height is 29.5 inches. Truthfully, with my boots on, I've got my toes and the ball of my foot on the ground. But considering that this a very heavy bike, 807 pounds dry, and with my wife on the back, being that tippytoed concerns me. And I don't want to spend that kind of money on something that creates more problems than it solves.
Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe - Similar to the Royal Star Venture, but without the fairing, and the seat height is about half-inch lower. But still the same engine, and same power. Another difference is it doesn't have the trunk, and the seat is hard as a rock. Cost is about $14,000.

Pros: The seat is a little bit lower than the Venture at 29.1 inches. I can get more of my feet on the ground, and the bike is about 30 pounds lighter (787 pounds) than the Venture. Still a heavy bike though. But I like the fact that you can quickly remove the windshield, the bags, and the passenger seat, and turn it in to a solo rider.

Cons: I'd have to buy the trunk and armrests separately, and the seat would not work for my wife. I could get the Mustang Seat, which she liked on the Road Star, but I hated the Mustang rider seat. I don't think I'll like it on the Tour Deluxe either.
Harley Davidson Electra Glide Classic - Who doesn't already know this bike? In comparison to the Yamahas, the Harley has much less power, I think something like 55hp at the rear wheel? The cost is about $20,000.

Pros: It's lighter than the two Yamahas, at 776 pounds, and the seat height is even lower too, at 27.3 inches. This is probably the biggest reason why I have this bike in consideration. There's all kinds of after-market stuff available for Harleys.

Cons: It's got much less power, considerably less. When you figure my wife will be on the back of this, and with the trunk and hard bags and full faring, it's going to drag it down. I remember riding to Las Vegas Bikefest, and we had a guy on a Electra Glide Classic with his girlfriend on back, and everything stuffed with their belongings, he was having trouble keeping up with us on the grades (the rest of us sailing along at 90mph). And of course, the price, is much more than the Yamahas.
One more bike worth mentioning here is the Honda Valkyrie Interstate. You'd have to buy this used, 'cause they don't make them anymore. Very similar power to the Royal Star bikes, but with a 1500cc Flat 6. Much lighter, at 680 pounds dry, though the same seat height as the Royal Star Tour Deluxe (29.1 inches).

To sum it up, I'm leaning towards the Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe. You get the same power as the Venture, but a little more lower seat height, and way cheaper than the Harley. Yeah, I know you can add a stage 1 kit to the Harley and beef up the power, but that's more expense. But in Harley's defense, having a touring bike that I can get a both feet firmly planted on the ground is worth something to me.

Whaddya think?

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  1. Truly, there are only two kinds of motorcycles in the world...Harley Davidsons and everything else. If you do not get the HOG at some ponint you will kick yourself and wish you had.

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  2. I suggest that you get what's gonna make you happy. Personnally I'd get my wife her own bike. Another option that I like is the Harley Road King Custom, It comes lowered and is great for those of us a little height challenged. The backrests possibilities are endless. It doesn't have the fairing, but there are after markets out there. I prefer fairingless, that's the way to ride.

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  3. Steve ck out this link you may find it usefull. There were a couple low miles used ventures on there also. Get what ya like thats the main thing.Dave aka Drifter

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/vrider/start

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  4. In my opinion there is no choice, since I was on a Kaw. now I'm on a ultra clasic. I never wanted to pay the harley price but after my first ride on it there is no comparison. 25000 miles later, and seeing alot of the good old USA, Harley is the only way to go. I can't keep my wife off of it either.

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  5. Before making any decision check out the Triumph rocket 3.

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  6. Steve, I'd not let the seat hight scare you, you've seen how short I am and I do just fine on the stock Road King. Once your rolling, its all cake and anyone with any riding exeriance (and god knows you have plenty) don't need to put a foot down for much more than stopping at a light. The only real problem I have with being on my toes is pushing the bike back. I'm not the big macho biker type...I'll let the old lady give me a push when needed. My vote is for the Ultra of course...that's my next bike, but you have to get the one you want and I'd put a bit more thought into the seat height issue as I don't think it might be as big a deal as you might think it is.

    See you on road,

    Russ

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  7. You didn't mention the Goldwing. If I'm going to spend $20K, it wouldn't be for a 'name'.

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  8. Truly, there are only two kinds of motorcycles in the world...Harley Davidsons and everything else. If you do not get the HOG at some ponint you will kick yourself and wish you had.

    By Anonymous, at 10/30/2005 11:07:47 AM


    Another person falls for the marketing ploy. Don't worry, one of these days you will grow up little boy.

    Nothing wrong with Harley per se, but there are bikes with better engineering for less cash.

    If you buy a Harley to be a poseur, at least be honest with yourself.

    He and his wife should ride or rent a bunch of the bikes names and see which one fits them the best.

    If the original author really wants a bike that size, the Gold Wing and the BMW K1200LT should also be considered.

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  9. I just bought my 8th bike. It is a new 05 Yamaha Royal Star tour Deluxe. It is fantastic! If you want smooth POWER and a comfortable ride this is a bike to consider. I have ridden over 3600 miles since buying it in September with most trips being over 200 miles and I find the seat no problem. It has electronic cruse control just like a car and a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty as well. Ride as many bikes as you can then decide.

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  10. buy the tour deluxe. i've got 6400 miles on mine & love it! so does my wife, & yes, she falls asleep on the back with no problems! i wanted to buy a v-max or a warrior but she sat on the 'deluxe & that was all she wrote. seamless power, cruise control & unlimited mileage 5 year warranty did it for me. try getting that on a hog without paying a lot extra. my warranty was free with the title. you won't regret it! jim in burnsville...

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  11. Hands down: Yamaha RSTD.

    I am also thinking of trading my Road Star in for one as my wife wants more comfort. The RSTD simply has everything (power, storage, comfort, reliability, kick butt factory warranty, and a great price).

    They Harley comments are kinda funny...so typical for the brainwashed!!

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  12. I find that most anti-Harley comments seem to be from he uninformed.
    I owned Goldwings,Kawasaki's and Yamaha's. They are all good machines. Harley-Davidson has made great improvements in their bikes, especially in the engine department. They do not "leak oil", that was before the Evo. I find their engines to be extremely reliable plus the fuel mileage is better than most other bikes its size.As far as power, it is enough to get a ticket anywhere. I buy my bikes for crusing/touring, not to see how fast I can go. Another plus for the Harley, the resale value remains higher for much longer.
    Each bike have their own pluses, so give knowlegeable information, I would guess that many that knock Harley's have never owned one, can't afford one, or just wish they could be on one. Personally, I like the Goldwing and the BMW, however, I choose at this time to ride my Classic tourer with a smile on my face.

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  13. I ride the 2003 yamaha venture, & like you my wife has the tendence to nod off ounce in a while on this bike there is no problem also,for almost nothing you can buy a lowering kit for the yamaha to lower it 1,in in the rear & also for less than $100.00 you can get 50 mi. to the gal,& 95hp to the ground check out the venture site!!

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  14. Good reply Sky, I'm impressed. Personally I just put a custom made "batwing" fairing and stereo on my R* because I want the wind RE-direction for better touring, but I would not sell my 1600cc ultra reliable and sweetly priced Star for anything. Ok,, maybe a wing, but I'm not old enough yet. (damn). I did own a Harley once, and got rid of it for a different import. In Canada, they're all imports. I just chose a better made import now, instead of an image that is being tarnished with every day that is passing. Great 100th anniversary concert Harley... but, Elton John????? Was it Gay Pride week also??

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  15. I recently purchased a Yamaha Stratoliner and am quite pleased with it. I chose it over the Harley Road King as it is more unique, more powerful, and prettier. Money was not an object.

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  16. ALL THE MANUFACTURERS MAKE GREAT MOTORCYCLES TODAY, THERE ARE A HOST OF CHOICES IN STYLE, IN ENGINE DESIGN AND LEVELS OF POWER,COMFORT ETC.
    H-D BUILDS THE BEST M/C THEY HAVE EVER BUILT TODAY, AND THATS GREAT.
    YAMAHA'S ROADSTAR IS A FINE BIG V-TWIN, THAT MANY THINK IS A KISSIN' COUSIN TO THE MILWAUKIE V-TWIN.I SAY LOOK AT EVERYTHING...RIDE AS MANY AS YOU CAN...AND REMEMBER"THE WIND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT YOUR RIDING"

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  17. Steve,

    I just purchased a 2006 Yamaha RSMV and I'am so proud of it. It not only has exceptional power,but also rides like a dream. It comes with all the goodies and I did'nt pay an additional 10,000 dollars for the name. Harley has come a long ways and they have further to go. A friend of mine owns a 1998 Royal Star Venture and put 206.000 miles on it with no mechanical problems. I repeat 206,000 miles!!!

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  18. Steve,

    I just purchased a 2006 Yamaha RSMV and I'am so proud of it. It not only has exceptional power,but also rides like a dream. It comes with all the goodies and I did'nt pay an additional 10,000 dollars for the name. Harley has come a long ways and they have further to go. A friend of mine owns a 1998 Royal Star Venture and put 206.000 miles on it with no mechanical problems. I repeat 206,000 miles!!!

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  19. I ride a 2006 H-D Street Glide. I have owned just about every brand under the sun and keep going back to Harleys. I have also worked a significant length of time at a multi-brand dealership.

    Why Harley... because it feels better than any other brand, to me. I like the way that it rides, I like the way that it handles and I like the torque that it puts out. Some of the other tourers try to be more like a car than a motorcycle.

    Also, there is a feel of quality behind my SG that the Japanese tourers do not have. I did not care for the look of the BWM touring bikes... so that was not am option, but I have put more than a few miles on one and like the comfort it provides.

    To be honest, buy whatever feels good to you. Whatever puts a smile on your face.

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  20. I still laugh at the comment made by a co-worker when I bought my 2005 Road Star last year, "you'll have a Harley in 6 months". Having owned three Harleys in the past, I can now understand why the metric riders would always (jokingly) say "twice the bike, half the price". I wouldn't say it is actually "twice the bike", but it is definitely a better & faster bike! If you truly believe that there are only "two types of bikes, HD's and all others", you have NEVER ridden anything but a Harley. Oh, I almost forgot the question. Go with the RSTD, that's my next bike! By the way, over half of the 20+ friends that I ride with are former HD owners and feel the same way as I do.

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  21. I come from generations of Riders, with my grandfather and Dad owning Harleys, Indians and other well known American and European bikes!
    That tradition carried down to my brothers and myself being raised as products of the 50's, 60's & 70's, we have all owned a variety of bikes! So with that said>

    I would suggest that people that are true bikers & the love of all the elements this term implies...spend less energy worrying about or arguing over the name or kind of bike we ride, but concentrate on what's truly important which is riding in and of intself and more energy on the commoraderie, fellowship, friendships, and fond memories! It should be about riding period, and the experiences and memories shared... rather than worrying if you own a Harley, Indian, Yamaha (Roadstar/Royalstar/Venture), Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Triumpch, BMW, Norton or minibike!

    One comment I will add here, is that for Harley lovers (Which I am one of them) to state put down a so-called metric bike and their argument is that you should own an American Bike, is rather contradictory, when most parts for HD are being outsourced and manuctured in Japan, Chile, Germany, China, Mexico and etcetera...while being shipped into the USA and assembled! Where as several of the Japanese made bikes are actually being manufactured and assembled both in the USA! So for HD owners to put down a so-called metric crusier and make the claim it's "just a rice grinder" and not a truly American made bike, is an oximoronic statement to say the least!

    Sadly HD's have become a bike and name that so many yupies think more of as a status symbol, that the only thing they care about is a name or the prestige they can derive from such! To me this should not be about a name but what each individual rider prefers and based solely on a person's Tastes and preferences!

    So point is, BUY and RIDE what you like and best suits your needs and tastes...and if budget is a factor...consider that also (I don't know why it wouldn't be, we all want to get the best bang for our buck, no matter what the name is on the bike)...remember AMF.

    Main thing is enjoy your bikrd and keep the the love and fellowship of riding alive!

    just my two bits!

    Tracy :)

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  22. I think it depends on how long you plan on keeping it
    there are more replacement parts for a 60 year old Harley then a 20 year old jap bike
    But if you are just learning to ride beat the jap bike.
    Or be like me and see the best things in all bikes
    I own 3 Hondas, 1 Harley, 1 Triumph, and a Yamaha.
    My favorite is a 2002 Bonevile for 1 up riding and Gold Wing
    for 2 up.
    The hardtail is good for short bar runs.
    With today's gas prices and enjoyment the Gold Wing has been taking the place of my truck when possible.
    Love them all.

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  23. There is no choice. By the harley and scrap the yamaha!

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  24. I liked what tracy said.On my ride today to dauphin island two scooters were approaching from the south.One was ridden by a guy the other a girl.Ithrew out my hand in passing and they did the same.I actually got a rush.Too many drugs in the 60-70s maybe.My point is they had the spirit,the wind in their faces and all the little things one can only expierence on a motorcycle no matter the manufacturer.I ride a 2004 roadstar w/53,000miles on the clock and like all types of bikes as they are cheaper than therapy.

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  25. Isn't it funny how everytime there's a discussion about bikes the first people to start slinging negative mud and put downs are the Harley owners. Well let me put my 2 cents in. I just sold my 1998 Electra Glide, it had 86,000 miles on it and ran fine, before that I had an 1990 Electra Glide which I sold at 75,000 miles on it, had some small problems during it's life, nothing major. I know own a 2005 Yamaha Royal Star Venture, which is much more comfortable, smoother, better gas mileage, and has good power for mountains as I live in western maryland. I have nothing against Harleys, or any other bike, I will say this though, the only reason Harleys are more dependable than years past is because they are made with more japanese parts such as, the carb, ignition, electrical switches, lights, forks, and shocks, any honest mechanic will agree. That last line should stir up hurt feelings!! Buy the Venture or Goldwing, it's you money and your butt. Good Luck.

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  27. There's an old saying,"...if it's too good to be true, it probably isn't."

    In 1985, I got a killer deal on an '84 Low Rider - for the price of a Sporty, new with HOG ownership. At just 300 miles an oil valve-spring went out and caused severe engine knocking. It left me stranded. The nearest dealer was already two weeks backlogged. Later my salesman wanted to make the bike 'disappear.'

    It was a sign I didn't belong w/biker folks that I so epitomized until then. Harley's look spectacular, but I doubt I'll ever buy one again and go through that bunk experience.

    JOKE: The main difference between a
    Harley and a Kirby vacuum is the location of the 'dirt bag.'

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  28. Ok - I know i am coming to this fight a little late, But what did you buy??

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  29. BE TRUE TO THE RED WHITE AND BLUE AND SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL FRIENDS AND BUY THE HARLEY !

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  30. ok
    I have a 2002 yamaha venture and it is by far the best bike i have been on.The weight problem is easy solved by changing the front tire for a smaller one.Takes about 300lb off the dead weight feel of slow slow speeds.As for the horse power it is between 98 and 100.This powerplant will do over 190k still in forth gear but gets good gas as well.The honda you speak of is a pig when it comes to gas.The harley is pretty but a smaller feeling bike,and yes,not much of a top end.My wife loves her lazy boy back seat
    good luck

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  31. Ok, here goes, I have owned two Harley Ultra Classics, then just bought a 2005 Royal Star Tour Deluxe with 3 years warranty left. I sold the harleys instantly, sorry to say. Power, ride, torque, there is no comparison, the Yamaha beat my harley's 2 to 1. I have been a Harley owner and fan since I was 16, (30 years) and I never knew what I was missing, and this bike will never overheat in traffic thanks to a wonderful invention that Harley has yet to find, a RADIATOR!!. I just out ran and out torqued two long time friends last weekend in the VA mountains. After market pipes on my TD and it has the same nice V Twin thump as any harley that I ever rode. I will never go back!!!!

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  32. until you expierence the harley you'll never understand why. Once you have the money will be incosiquential as always you get what you pay for ,oh yea when you go to trade ( if ever ) you'll apprieciate the harley as it will hold it's value better.squeak

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  33. I've just gotten rid of a HD Road King Classic for the new Yamaha Stratoliner S. I don't care what anyone says, HD makes good and reliable bikes, BUT their prices are OUTRAGEOUS and way too high for what they are worth. The only reason the resale value stays high is because of the continous brainwashing of new riders that their bikes are something special. HD is not equal in value to Japanese bikes. Go ahead HD riders, and hate on Japanese bikes. But their quality and value is far superior to anything HD can put out, and that includes their SUPER-OVER-PRICED Custom Vehicle Operations bikes.

    There is NOTHING Harley Davidson has for sale that can come close (factory stock) to the comfort, HANDLING, BRAKING, POWR, RELIABILITY and VALUE then a Yamaha Stratoliner "S". That bike was chosen as 2006 Cruiser of the Year for a reason =)
    And oh by the way...I've seen multiple mags compare the Road King to completely different Star bikes (such as the V-STAR 1100 or Royal Star!) where do they get off at? Compare top cruiser to top cruiser. HANDLING, POWER, BRAKING, LOOKS AND VALUE =)
    Star Motorycles =) OK that's my three cents.

    P.S. Yes I like Harley's...I just refuse to be a poseur and throw my money out the window to be down with the crowd!

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  34. I have had both a RSTD and Road King.Buy what makes sense for you.Not too many bad bikes out there.It really mater of taste and priorites

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  35. I have a 2003 Royal Star Venture that has 42k miles on it now. Tires are the only items replaced on this bike since new and I still have until April 2008 under warranty. The Venture ride is what I like most about the bike. The electronic cruise makes those 400/500 mile rides the dream they should be. The bike is the most comfortable long distance ride I have experianced with all the power you'd need. Haven't experianced the Honda Gold Wing yet, heard it's quite nice. I like to ride with anyone on any thing as long as they're into riding and not building an ego. I like the look of the Harley and the sound, but it's usually the rider that turns me off. For some reason it seems like some of them bought the bike to over come some inferiority complex they have, hoping the Harley name would make them all better. Well if it works for them great, just don't think for a moment you're riding a better made, better riding bike. My two bits. Enjoy the ride.

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  36. Without reading all comments to sure post. You know you can lower any of the bikes. I would pick the one I like and lower it or take to to a bike shop and get them to lower it. Good luck. mojo

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  37. I had a 99 Electra Gluide Classic that I will say above 70 was way underpowered, and that was with just me on it. I like the old Ventures and will get one for my next tourer because they seem to have a lot of power in just stock form. I have an 89 Ultra Classic now that i bought with 98,000 on the clock for 6 grand on ebay. If I didn't find that I would probably get the Yamaha. Heres my 2 cents and I DO work for a Harley supplier and I pity the people that go into the dealerships (brainwashing centers). What would the "never owned a bike" person think if he went into the Chevy dealer and just bought a new pickup and was then told he had to get a big-bore kit otherwise it wouldn't keep up with traffic? Or he paid $400 for floormats but that was ok because they had a Chevy emblem on it. Or even further when he took his "Chevy USA-1" leather jacket out of the box it had a tag on it that said "Made with pride by ox-cart riding, poor, solder beaten peasants in the 2nd army tent at the labor camp in Quangyang Province for 2 bowls of rice per day". If Harley wants to tote american made, then make it all here, not just some parts. And quit charging 20K for a 15K bike. I'm a harley guy, I just sold my completely restored 48 Panhead that I drove to work every day I could. So don't everybody that talks them up get on my case I restore them (yes I restore the ones the really DO leak) The new ones are nice, but I'll repeat what one post said, They need a thing called a radiator

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  38. I just rode 1000 miles on an 08 Electraglide Ultra Classic, Over 400 lb load with my wife and I on it. (No she's not, but I'm pretty big). Now I know why God rides an Ultra Classic, of course he knows what going to go wrong with it before hand, and I'm sure he has someone to maintain it for him before hand. But I don't think the Venture is quite up to the pure enjoyment of the UC

    Dave

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  39. We're getting ready to go big touring bike again. I've looked and sat on everything out there and have decided on the Royal Star Venture as the most comfortable bike I ever sat on or rode. Yes, like you this bike will be for my wife's comfort. Gold Wing, BMW and Harley didn't impress us like the Yamaha Royal Star Venture!

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  40. Ok i have a flhtcui, truth is its not really dependable. it left me standed twice intermitant sensor problems. we are sitting on each other caue the bike is really alot smaller than it looks for 2 adukts more than 200 lbs a piece. now the stator fried . i did a recall look on line , H_D is littered with recalls and problems tat people just accept. its vibration is physically tiring after a 500 miles your wrn out, now the hondas and yamahas aregreat machines, very low re calls on line for those..and few consumer prblems that i can find, but theres no shortage of how do i repair a harley...hmmmmmmm.
    when i get my hd repaired this time im trading on a yammy if i can find the one i want. not a gold wing they look too much like leggos.
    buy the yammy from a hd owner wishing he did ! darren

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  41. Take it from me, get the Harley. I currently own a Honda VTX and am sorry that I didn't get an electraglide. The tank is too small, no sixth gear, no FUEL guage or tach, low power, wobble, rattles, and two-up is a pain. However, for the price it was a good deal, I just want more. By the time you add the options you want you'll be close in price to the HD anyways.

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  42. I own a 2006 rstd and love it!!! Just keep the stock pipes on it and your set to go. I kinda get harley envy from time to time but my bike still gets compliments from harley riders. IT's fast, smooth and being able to take of the front wind shield and backrest is great. But I do have to say, for big touring, I would either at the quadzilla faring or get a venture. The radio (in comparison to the ipod in the ears) would be a welcome addition as well as the cb and push to talk, even know my wife doesn't really like to talk while we ride. Figure that???

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  43. Hi. This is way after the question. But, did any one suggest a lowering kit for what ever you chose to ride?
    So, bye what makes you happy, and slam it!

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  44. Well, I certainly hope Steve has made his mind up by now. It's been since October 29, 2005. lol
    Try out as many as you can. That way you can make an informed decision that fits your lifestyle. You are the one that will have to live with the payments.

    BTW, what did you end up buying?

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  45. buy the Yamaha I have had several harleys over the years and I am in a hog chapter, last year a friend bought a venture and said want to take it for a ride we'll after that ride the "pig" I mean hog was gone and i now own a venture, and as far as these guys that say i would rather push a harley we'll keep it long enough and you will push it. and as far as it will hold it's value (bull) I paid $23,000 and sold it 3 years after for $14,500 even at that price it took 4 months to sell, ride the Yamaha and then ride the ultra there is no comparison Buy thhe yamaha

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  46. I finally got to a point in my life to where I was able to purchase any bike I wanted. After some research, I narrowed it down to the Harley Road King and the Yamaha Road Star. I did a test drive on both, but also test rode a used 2007 Road King with 7,000 miles on it.

    I was struck on how the '07 Road King was still as good as ride as a brand new one. I think that shows the improvements Harley has done since the AMF disaster.

    The one thing I have to admit is that I am a fair-weather rider, so I have not piled up the miles on the previous bikes I've owned.

    Though I was more committed to the fit of the bike I wanted to buy rather than the price, I am also committed to getting a good value. With that, I ended up buying a new '08 model Road Star Silverao "S".

    I am not at all anti-Harley. I love the look and sound of their bikes. I get the whole Harley "mistique" thing. Personally, the Road Star was just an overall better ride, and most importantly, a better fit for my riding tastes.

    For the value-minded, the used Harley I rode was priced at
    $14800, while I got the fully dressed Road Star for $11,400.

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  47. In your personal situation I think you will be much happier with the Yamaha. Not having the power you want and to get it your going to have to spend a lot of extra money which will probably still not satisfy you leaving you unhappy with your purchase.

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  48. Being thoroughly experienced with both Harley's and Yamaha's now in my mid 40's I ride a fully dressed Venture Royal and wouldn't trade it for anything. But It truely comes down to your personal preference if you want a comfortabe ride, dependability and stay within a budget to get a well balanced bike I would advise on the Yamaha - But its personal preference.

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  49. how could u ever hit a deer like that u jack ass

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  50. I have a 2001 BMW MONTANNA have owned Kawasakwi Hondas. I love my BMW its a very well balanced bike and the performance is awesome, like the Harley it carries a good resale value, the parts if anything should go wrong are expensive but the bike is very well manufactured. MY wife does not ride with me on the BMW cruiser because of the back seat. It will cost me 500.00. and I dont think she would ride if I did buy the seat and the seat ruins the look of my bike. I looked at anew Yamaha Venture yesterday and after reading these comments and knowing that the BMW as well as the Harley accessories are very expensive I have decided I will keep the BMW I love it! I also will buy the new Venture YAMAHA because the Quality is excellent and everyone you talk to will tell you( that has rode a Venture) is that its very comfortable and less money and a five year unlimited warranty, if they will do that the bike must be very well made and very dependable! Now lets all enjoy the ride be very friendly and greet one another as we ride, we all love the feel of the wind, the power, all the beautiful sights of the things GOD created for us to enjoy! Lets ride and LOVE one another as GOD intended for us to! It doesnt matter what you ride the most important thing is LOVE ONE ANOTHER DONT USE YOUR TONGUE to hurt one another, we all enjoy riding and looking at one anothers bikes and sharing experences! GOD BLESSED YOU WITH WATEVER YOU RIDE! HONOR GOD BY SHOWING LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER! BY THE WAY check out the FAITH RIDERS to learn more I did and you will find what really matters the most in life!

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  51. I'm Sorry I didnt read ALL the comments posted but I will sum up my suggestion quickly. Keep your roadie and add a trunk. I put a King Tour Pak on my Roadstar with the nice backrest with arms and it was alot cheaper than buying another bike. Do a search on ULTRASTARS. With my Batwing fairing I get alot of looks from Harley owners and alot of double takes when they realize I am NOT on a Harley.

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  52. Over the years I have had a lot of bikes to start off I am a hog member and I have had 2 Sporsters a softail 1 Ultra classics a BSA and a Honda Goldwing, a friend bought an 05 Royal Venture and said I should take one for a ride, well I did. If your a little person or weak buy the harley the yamaha is a hand full at 807lbs and it does sit high off the ground but dirve one and like me you will trade in your little harley and get a real bike and ask yourself why does Harley have such a crapy warrenty instead of a 5 year plan the harley guys say they dont need it Ya right, funny when these guys say i am an american I buy American ask them where they get their tv, stereo, clothes, camcorder, camera, ect. Don't fall the Hypy Buy the Yamaha you'll love it dont get me wrong i still like harleys they have the sound but the rest of it goes to Yamaha like they say Harley half the bike twice the price

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  53. I see everyone still posting on this one so I figured i'd give my two-cents worth too. I've owned Suzuki's, Kawi's, one Yamaha, and now my first Harley. I don't see how people can campare the bikes really. I like Analogies, so to me (cruiser wise)it's like comparing a fake Rolex to the real thing and saying how much more of a watch the knock-off is. Does anyone care that it might be more refined, or might have a radiator? I don't. I want the real-thing. You know? The bike from the guys who invented the cruiser in their garage in 1903. If I wanted a sporbike, I'd buy another Jap bike, they know how to make one. If I want a cruiser, I'm buying Harley and getting the real-thing. Nothing replaces the feeling of an old American byway with the song of your American V-twin pipes blaring, just brings a sense of pride and smile to my face and no refinement will ever replace that nostalgic feeling! That's all I can say.

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  54. Whatever you get, get it so the wife is going to be comfortable on it or you might be riding alone.(Which isn't all that bad sometimes) I have been around Harleys for 35 years and love them. The pride of owning a Harley used to be something. But now they are all over the place, just like McDonalds and Walmart. Parts mfg. overseas and many people owning one who have no business being on any bike. While Harleys are still a love of mine, I will never give up my Valkyrie to own one, just because its a Harley. As for the guy who says there are only two bikes out there, it is too bad for him, because he hasn't had the chance to ride the best ones yet. It is good to be brand loyal, but we are all bikers and need to support each other.

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  55. Honda Valkyrie Interstate - enough said. Smooth, powerful, comfortable, easy on the pocket book, and looks awesome. Downside, the worst in mpg at around 37.

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  56. Baron makes a lowering kit for the Yamaha Royal Star Venture lowering it about 2 inches.

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  57. I love seeing what all the Harley wannabes write. Funny how most of them state "when you can afford it..." Let me tell you, the resale value is gone! You may lose a little more on the metrics, but you wont have spent the extra 7-10k to buy a name. You people are sheep. You have been led to the slaughter, and have drank the magic koolade. You think it is cool to ride a name, one that was once built here with US parts, and now has foreign parts. Read the dealer sticker. I have had 2 HOGS, and thats what they were, slow, unreliable pigs. You pay lean cut pork chop prices for Scrappel! If you reach down and removbe your heads from your rear, you will be able to see the light again. Otherwise, please feel free be herded to the comets tail!

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  58. A motorcycle is no place to sleep/cat nap - get your wife a strong coffee before she goes for a ride with you, then you can have any bike YOU want!!

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  59. is funny this never ends, they all have many good points to them and in the end.. both metric owners and harley owners are curious about the others ride..i have met get people on bikes harleys or metrics.. though i do think and agree harley does brain wash there new customers and the new customers have not really tried out all that is out there. in all fairness i ride a 1600 road star and do like it.. but there were things on it that didn't work for me either. you harley owners will remember the 97 to 2000 herritage springer.. i had a set of those bags made for my bike... look fantastic on it also went with a open road batwing fairing and a lower saddleman seat.. the bike looks pretty cool. i also hear that " when you can aford to buy a harley" 90% are financed thats why harley is in abit of hot water now. don't get me wrong there a nice bike..but there not the only bike out there...my car is a BMW i don't go around telling people well when you can aford one.
    it is my car of choice as your bike is to you, what ever it is...were all the same out there people..just wanting to get out and ride.

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  60. Buy American. After all, you live here.

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  61. I used to have the Buy American attitude. Then I realized it just meant I was helping US manufacturers make lesser goods and overcharge me for it.

    Ever notice the higher-end Craftsman tools are made in China, while the cheap ones with poor machining are made here?

    As for Harley, they used to make Bikes I liked, they were called Buell.

    PS: I can't even fathom letting my wife sleep while riding.

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  62. ah,the world of free enterprise and profit, which machine is better,his or hers,mine,yours,theirs ours,in the end we just ride ,hail to the rider .HAIL

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  63. I love all bikes but when I went to buy a cruiser style my first stop was the Harley Dealership even though I have always owned Yamaha. I loved the look of the Roadking. By the time they added the 1000 dollar freight and setup we were talking around twenty thousand dollars. This was in 2004. I told the salesman he needed to do better and he said they have the bikes and if I didn't want it, so be it. Yeah, see ya. I think he is working at Burger King now. I went and looked at the Yamaha Roadstar (50 dollars freight and setup), $10,200...sold. Oh and no 500 mile, 400 dollar first maintenance. First valve check on the Roadstar is 16,000 miles. I do all my own work on the Roadstar.

    I have a good friend who owns a Harley Roadking Custom. Nice bike, but shakes like a jackhammer at idle. Slow, and shifts with the loudest clunk I have ever heard. His wife is into "nice things". She bought a Deuce, has 2500 miles after three years. She loves to say maybe you can get a Harley next time. Funny. I think her total seat time is four thousand miles. I have 33 years of non-stop riding. Her Harley sits in the garage. Brainwashed again.

    What I hate most is people who don't know shit about motorcycles trying to tell others how great their bike is and how crappy yours is. I really don't care what you ride, as long as you ride and shut your mouth.

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  64. Every year I go into a Harley place to check out what might be new and improved and every year for the past 8 years its always the same old same old. New paint jobs, differant style names but same old frames and technology. Unless of course you want to drop over 30 G's for a Screaming Eagle, Ya right!
    I have been riding Yamaha Star bikes for over 8 years now and own a 2006 Stratoliner. After looking at other bikes, I go back to the garage and apologize to my girl for ever looking at anything else. The Harley lure is strong but
    for all the wrong reasons. Stay true to what the little voice is telling you,he knows better.
    By the way my Harley friends don't say sh-t about my Stratoliner,they know.

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  65. Well I would like to put my two cents worth, I own a 1999 Yamaha Road Star Silverado, It has 143,000 Km.= 80,000 miles. I bought a 2006 FLHPI Was a cop bike, I have spent well over $1,000 dollars in the first year on it. I have spent much less then that on the Yamaha since I owend it ( not counting Oil and tires). The Yamaha is a better engineered bike, My wife finds it more confortable as a passenger.....But if we all drove the same bikes it would be a boring out there. I am happy that I can have both.

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  66. I have owned and ridden a lot of bikes (CB750, Kz900, Valkyrie, Goldwing, KZ1300, Road King, FXR-P, Sportsters, BMW R1100RSL, S40 Boulevard, EN500, Ultra Classic, etc and presently a CBR1000F and a ZX-12R). Harleys are out for me. They just feel good and look good. I wrench on my bikes and other's bikes and the bikes I always seem to wrench on are Harleys. The bike I am looking to get is a 1998 Royal Star because it looks good, feels good and is a very, very reliable bike. Sociology is a subject all Harley riders failed in college. Peer pressure got to them like their Sociology professor said it would. Lemming run to the cliffs and jump together, like brand loyal riders do....

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  67. I ride a 07 Venture. It took a bit to get used to the weight and height. I did have to become a better rider, this bike doesn't like sloppy technique when you a stopping.
    I'm not sure I'd buy another due to the Yamaha dealers available. It is reliable and a good warrantee but if you do need anything be prepared to park it for a couple of weeks while they schedule you in. Yamaha seems to be getting away from Yamaha only dealers and now my local two dealers also deal multiple brands of motorcycles. Even for a simple fix they won't even talk to you until your scheduled appointment. Maybe Harley would be more interested in keeping a good name. I think I'm going to sell my Venture while it is still under warrantee.
    Jerry
    Tucson AZ

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  68. Never owned a HD due to budget concerns plus good experiences with the metrics.
    Now ride a fully tricked out 2006 Royal Star Tour Deluxe. Love the power and comfort, and shelled out a mere $8.7K for a pristine bike with 19K miles on it plus $1.5K of add-ons. Ride what suits you best, but you'll never have to worry about the RSTD keeping up with a HD Road King or giving you mechanical problems. And, by the way, you'll also never have to change a belt on the Royal Star.

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  69. best possible cool scooter i recon Pocket Rocket Electric Mini Bike

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  70. I ride with friends that own's the Brand name HD. Of course they are nice and American and that is fine . I owned Kawasaki, Yamaha, and my latest was a Suzuki intruder VS 1400, After replacing the original seat with a super mustang wider and easyer on the tailbone, I have ridden very long trips with all my luggage and loved it even if the body was small compare to the HD's my buddie's are riding with. I bought the Suzuki brand new in 2003 and at the time in Canada the base price was $ 9,999.00.
    Over the years I added more than $ 4500.00 of extra pieces of equipment and I just loved it because of the low riding position and oh yes important to mention no break down only oil changes and break's and tires in 8 years of pleasure . Ok now that I am 57 and want to get a little more comfy , I just traded it ... Before I did the trade and because my friends where pressing me to buy a Harley welll... I rented one for a Week End , I rented a Road KIng and I tought it was great ,,,Ok , Then I had an offer to test drive a used 2007 Yamaha Beautiful blue Royal Star Venture and guess what !!! Ouppps fell in love with the power the comfort the quietness of the machine is incredible .. Oh yes and it's fully loaded , Ok so now I bought it at a great price and it's still have a remaining 2 years warranty .. I will say again nothing against HD, but take the name out and ride the beauty .....Finally the main think is RIDE and Enjoy but be safe please ..
    Thank you

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  71. peimark-canada3/17/2013 06:53:00 PM

    i love all the comments.i ride everything.i have 2 1984 1300cc voyagers.6cyl injected crazy powerfull bikes.2002 roadstar great bikes lots of power.just bought 06 stratoliner s.can.t wait to get out on it this summer.10$ invested into my 2002 heritage harley 95cu loved this bike but only paid $6000 for the stratoliner check out the specs on this bike and all the chrome.good luck on picking the right bike.

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  72. Well, I don't make $30-40k a year so I will stay with the import bikes. If you make enough to purchase a Harley with cash and not have to make $300-400/month payments then hell yeah get one. Which makes me wonder where Harley riders get all this cash to blow. But if you aren't rich then buy an import and save yourself the monthly payments.

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