Sons of Anarchy to Begin Shooting

The new FX television pilot, "Sons of Anarchy", a drama based on the world of motorcycle clubs, will begin shooting on February 14...

The new FX television pilot, "Sons of Anarchy", a drama based on the world of motorcycle clubs, will begin shooting on February 14, according to TV Squad.

Sons of Anarchy was originally named "Forever Sam Crow", when FX originally green-lighted it last October.

The Hollywood Reporter described it as a "multigenerational family drama that centers on Jack, a man in his 20s, who is faced with his own responsibilities as a new father and is unsure how he is going to balance that life with his involvement in the Sons of Anarchy motorcycle club founded by his late father".

Jack is played by Charlie Hunnam, a british actor, while Katey Sagal plays his mother, who is still the matriarch of the club, while Scott Glenn plays his step-father, who took over as President of the club.

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  1. Sounds like "The Sopranos" but with bikes.

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  2. Sounds like Star Riding and Touring. A guy who's father started a chapter, nows try to figure out how he's going to get an "appointed" position, so he can lord over everyone beneath him. Sorry, been there, done that, don't like it.

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  3. WOW! This sounds like it's going to be an amazing show, especially with all the Harley Davidson riders across the world. What could be better than a cast of sexy bad boys riding Harleys in California?? Also, knowing it's airing on FX lets me KNOW it's going to be the real deal. FX seems to have all the hottest shows in recent years. I think it sounds like an exciting and fresh premise, and can't wait to see it!!! Go on "SONS OF ANARCHY!"

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  4. As a patchholder in a REAL outlaw MC I can't wait to see how inaccurate this show is! I don't care how good the writers are, the only way to know what it is really like to be in an outlaw club is to be a patchholder in an outlaw club!

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  5. I am the President of a Motorcycle Club in Florida. I am really interested to see how authentic this show is going to be. Is this show going to only represent the Harley Clubs or are we gonna see the SportBike clubs too?

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  6. Having spent my entire life in the MC world, this is both disrespectful to the MCs of CA, as well as "The Real Sons Of" . And probably be about as realistic as Wild Hogs, and just add more negative media play to an already negative image of real world MCs.

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  7. I agree with anonymous. No on knows what the club life is like unless they are in it. I have a feeling this show is going to piss me off. I hope it's not going to represent to the public club life like O.C.C. represented bike builders.
    Hacksaw, club member TN

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  8. Is Robert Patrick gonna be in this one! heard he was in a real mc club?

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  9. This will be great looking foward to some reality. first 10 minutes at the clubhouse having a soda warming up the bikes. next 5 minutes Take off get on Freway go 3 miles get pulled over at gun point for nothing other than wearing a patch. Then they can show the real truth of harrasment and violations of rights of the only true free americans left!

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  10. I'M curious to see if any of these idiot actors wear their "colors" off the production set and how long it takes for someone to notice and beat their asses.

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  11. worked day as an "extra" - got piad 500.00 to ride my bike up and down a scenic strectch of highway in Acton - I can say from what i saw they seemed to have seemed to have done some researcjha the bikes and extras are authentic anyway - I have not a clue what how the actual script will be like. The kid casted as the VP was a very humble, nice fella, albiet a little young to portray an officer in an "outlaw" MC club - As far as all you sniveling about the real outlaw mc world - Get over your selves - it is tv for crissakes!!!!!!!!!!!! When has tv or Joe Citizen ever gotten it right? At least this going to have an authentic feel and it will not be a bunch of caricitures riding around on a mish mash of dirt bikes.Jap crap/etc. acting like morons. - Tom

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  12. 500.00 huh? Not a bad pay day.

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  13. its funny you people cant appreciate what they are doing. it will be a good show f/x wont let it be bad they have a very good track record of good shows. so who cares how real it is? im not a patch holder an nor do i care to be i just like to ride and if this show will have lots of motorcycles i will love it

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  14. as Vice President of a REAL MC Club how exactly will this series make the general public feel towards us...we are not all Gangsters and Druglords...we have a hard enough time to make the Public and Law Enforcement understand we are not out to rob, pillage and rape your Town.

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  15. hey Tom...are you a Patch holder...500.00 bucks and you are now the expert on the authenticity of a Series? Have you ever gotten followed by a Cop for miles for no other reason because of what you are wearing on your back? Ever had people walk on the other side of the street because they think you gonna do them harm? I am a hardworking Man, Father, Husband and happen to be a Biker. I don't need some TV idiots make things worse with their vision of Bikers.

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  16. I too am a patch holder in a MC and I think that people have and will always have a negative image of bikers regardless of what this show puts out there. Who cares? I don't try and conform to what society "thinks" I should do or be. This show is simply for "entertainment" only and anyone with half a brain knows that. It will no doubt have some sick scoots in it so I will watch. All you "chicken littles" take a chill pill.

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  17. yeah we can tell who the real Bikers are here don't we...it usually means you Guys know squat and actually use shows like that to "learn" from...until you run into the real deal and s(*& your pants...I look at it as a new Comedy show...good for a few laughs then I go and rise with the "real" Bikers...
    you go Chaos...you got the right Idea...how many times has this s)(* happened to us...

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  18. I just worked as a extra on it and it is being done as a comedy.
    It will pull an audience for one season......... tops.

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  19. I'm in an MC also.

    At least the main character is going to be one to sympathize with. At least they'll make him human with real feelings.

    They'll get it all wrong though... I'm sure of that.

    Being in an MC is like going through a transition in life. You basically become something else than you were before and, unless you've done it, all you have is a faulty perception of what you think it might be like.

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  20. good god, its only tv, nothin like makin a movie about bikers to piss off someone,to all you so called bikers, go for it,, to all you real bikers. like we used to say in a place far far away\IT DONT MEAN NOTHIN
    who gives a rats ass what people think of us, we are what we are. if they dont like it ,, look the other way

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  21. How many "REAL BIKERS" are sitting looking at their laptops worrying about a TV show ??

    WFO

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  22. i may not be a biker but i do know many and none of them are hell raisers. they all care bout their children and bout their families. i know all bikers arent good but most of the ones i have been around only fight when they have to and earn the respect desurved. this show will probly show the truth of bikers that dont care and are regular hell raisers. the things this show probly wont show is the good in most of them hearts and their families.

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  23. First of all, the technical advisors are from th 81.
    Second of all I am a patcholder and wear a three piece patch in S. Ca. and the 81 has sanctioned other clubs to wear a bottom rocker.
    The show will be what it will be, but I can tell you that they are really trying to make it as real as possible.
    They have used club members in all phases of production.
    Try watching it then judging it.
    And by the way a lot of bikers, real bikers are looking at their computers right now, just because we're bikers doesn't mean we're stupid.
    Welcome to 2008.

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  24. These comments are as big a soap opera as the Sons of Anarchy soap opera. I can't believe these "real bikers" are so concerned over a soap.

    Whatever -- live to ride

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  25. With respect, some have a real concern. As a dad, supervise your kids. Brothers, it's tv, if fools believe everything, it's on them.
    Most importantly, patch holders don't flap there jaws about HA & the Mongols with disrespect cause jaws break. The politics are known, not disrespected. Those who talk big never came close to being killed. Praise Jesus Christ!
    Love and Respect, Yogi DFFD

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  26. I ride with a riding cub, not an MC, I have been warned not to wear my patch, in certain parts of the country, because it could cause problems, I've ridden with the Outlaws on a couple benefit rides, but we had to get permmision, from the clubs officers, when I see these folks talking about the way the show would make bikers look bad. I wonder if they are really with an MC?

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  27. I agree with the ones that said watch the dang thing then cry about it!!! I know a lot of bikers that are patch holders and ones that aren't and they could really care less what this program implies! From what I have seen and heard only the "real" bikers have a class all by themselves and nobody can capture it right in the "movies" anyway no matter how hard they try. And to be bloody truthful would you as a regular person find a Real Truth Biker Show interesting?? Or would you preferr the md on the show jump over the hill after your accident and pop the top off a cold one for ya??? What would make this more fun for you??? I would like the Beer thank you very much!!!

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  28. I'm a 3-patch VP, big rip. What the fuck does that matter? My opinion on this show will just be another dumbass opinion, what the fuck does my patch have to do with it?

    Nothing.

    Yours?

    Nothing.

    What the fuck are you people even bringing it up for? Suddenly you are the expert, because of your patch?

    You define the patch, the patch doesn't define you. If it does, you're a damned fool.

    "And by the way a lot of bikers, real bikers are looking at their computers right now, just because we're bikers doesn't mean we're stupid.
    Welcome to 2008."


    Fuck yeah... hahahahahaha

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  29. Ron Perlman (aka Hellboy) is taking Scott Glenn's spot as the stepdad after the pilot episode. The claim is that this was done for a more darkly comedic feel...
    Whatever the reason, Ron will bring some real attitude to the show.

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  30. I think anybody who gets upset about a television show obviously gets upset about everything. Those of us who ride and love our bikes think this is great. The country is filled with individual riders who love their Harleys and don't belong to clubs, we don't need to, we are not Wild Hogs, we are just Harley Owners. "Sons of Anarchy" will be great, can't wait. Where can I buy and Jacket?

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  31. I don't ever remember the Harley Davidson Dealership saying; "Do you belong to a biker club?" Because if you don't you can't buy a bike. If they did they would never sell any bikes and they would not be the company that they are today. Its the individual biker enthusiast who has brought this company to the for front. When we lived in Wisconsin we went on a ride for Muscular Dystrophy on Memorial Weekend. The ride consisted of over 3000 bikes it was a wonderful ride and we all had a great time. Don't remember any gangs, just remember great fun. We were also at the Anniversary in Milwakee thousands of bikes and bikers from all over the world and don't remember MC's running the show. Just remember people showing their bikes and having a great time. So what they are doing a tv show. With gas prices the way they are there will be more and more bikes on the road. Get over it...

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  32. Patch or no patch - rocker or no rocker - we all ride - and we're all "brothers & sisters," in one way or another.

    I'm not a patch holder, but I ride with a few of them - bottom line - you don't mess with them, they won't mess with you.

    All riders are sons, daughters, mothers, fathers - grandparents. It's all good.

    And television is television.

    I'm not afraid of anvils falling from the sky because of Wile E. Coyote, nor am I afraid of mass murderers wearing hockey masks, wielding machetes.

    I can't wait to see the pilot - how much I look forward to episode two remains to be seen.

    See ya at the 105th - keep the rubber side down.

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  33. first of all most outlaw clubs dont wash there laundry in a public forum, it just breeds law enforcement breathing down there necks more,
    next just coz i ride a harley it dont make me your fucking brother, the only brothers i have are namvets
    so dont fuckin keep on wavin at me\i dont know ya dont wanna know ya and ya aint my fuckin brother

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  34. well after seeing how many 1%rs are commenting on this issue on the bloggs ive read it seems that you are a great deal more than 1% of those that ride...

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  35. damn some people are ignorant. take a look at sonny bargers books and you can see what at least some of the mc clubs are like. this show follows one man in a fictional mc club. so what if it is not 100% accurate to what suits your tastes. guess what superman isn't real yet i seen him lift the statue of liberty in new york. no one cares...just a few of you are griping. sheesh this show is not for you then. gene simmons said if you don't like it don't watch it. simple as that.

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  36. for some to publicly announce that they are a member of a famous outlaw clubs is both stupid and dangerious. so those who say they are on this page makes me suspect
    any club member with any amount of brains who would do this is really fuckin dumb
    its an open invatation to say " here i am come get me"

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  37. I'm sick of hearing these 1%ers bitch and complain about how they are being "picked on" by law enforcement. i've been riding for the better part of a decade now, and have spent some time around a certain 1% group. While i have met a decent amount of generally good guys in this group, most (and the group dynamic as a whole) have shown themselves to be nothing more than common thugs. If anything this show will show them as being much better than they actually are. Most have only shown themselves to be complete scum. They complain about the wrong "image" they have, but have a proven history of drug and weapons dealing, human trafficing and other offences. They act as if they say their not criminals enough times, they wont be.

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  38. I WAS IN A MC, A TRUE OUTLAW CLUB AND I LEFT CAUSE OF ALL YOUR PETTY BULLSHIT. I CANT RIDE HERE I CANT RIDE THERE....THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY I CAN RIDE WHERE THE FUCK I WANT. I HATE DEALING WITH THE MC SHIT AND YOUR DRUG PUSHING AND YOUR KILLING BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS ON THE WRONG STREET. WHAT ARE YOU? SOME PEICE OF SHIT TWO BIT DRUG DEALER FROM COMPTOM. BIKERS ARE MEANT TO BE FREE, NOT BOUND BY RULES OF A CLUB. I AM DONE WITH THE WHINNING AND THE BICKERING GET OVER YOURSELVES. I STILL RIDE AND I RIDE WITH MY PRIDE STILL IN MY HEART. MOST OF YOU LOST YOURS SOME WHERE BETWEEN BEING A HANG AROUND AND SCRUBBING TOILETS. THIS IS A FUCKIN TV SHOW, EXCUSE THE PRODUCERS FOR NOT BEING A FULL PATCH IN 81 OR THE OUTLAWS, THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE AND NEVER WILL SO LET THEM HAVE THERE SHOW AND GROW UP.

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  39. To the namvet who hates everyone, instead of waiving at you I'll just give you a middle finger salute next time you ride by, would you like that be better?

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  40. I mean...we'll see about this show. I'd like to see it, then decide what I think of it.

    I don't know what some of y'all are all excited about though. Discrimination is everywhere. So are good people, bad people and corruption. There are good people in MCs, bad people in churches. Its never black and white. The gray area goes on forever. We all get to deal with it together.

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  41. Anonymous said: "so dont fuckin keep on wavin at me\i dont know ya dont wanna know ya and ya aint my fuckin brother," I feel sorry for you man. If we are waving at you its out of respect for the other bikers who are on the road. Its kid of like an unspoken handshake. You drive somebody you wave and they wave, I thinks its cool. If the only freinds and "brothers" you have are Vietnam Vets like you then I am sorry you feel that way. I am not old enough to say that I was there but I do have freinds who were and they are great to be around and a lot of fun. Don't want to Piss you Off, but I am going to pray for you, OK?

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  42. We have a Harley and love it. My husband decided not to join a club for many of the reasons being stated on this blog. This is a free country the last time I checked and we want the ability to ride where ever and when ever we like. I work at one of the big hospitals in my area and one month ago I say maybe two bikes parked in the garage. I now see over 10. So to bad boys gas prices have made it more convienent and cost effective to drive a motorcycle than a car. Get used to it. I love the tv show "The Sopranos", but I have never heard of a computer blog of mafia getting all upset over a tv program.

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  43. Ok boys, Lets try to add a name to our postings so that we can reply to someone in particular. Don't be Shy or Scarred. Doug and Jason aren't and me either. So think up a name so we can answer you back.

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  44. hey this is namvetfxdwg
    at least when you give me the finger i know it will be sincere, i really love all this : live to ride ride to live bullshit", riding around trying to look like the big bad outlaw bikers that you all loath. wearing patches on your vest that you have no comprehension what they stand for, i dont hate everyone
    as far as waving? if i was in my red pickup and you was in your green pickup would you wave to me?
    I doubt it
    to all these little assholes who just started riding, forget about dressing up for the part and concentrate on learning how to ride,stop trying to show off with you LIVE TO RIDE RIDE TO LIVE CHROME SHHIT ALL OVER YOUR BIKES,
    instead learn how to service your bikes ,learn about your bikes,and stop trying to be someone you are not
    oh and to the pwrson who said that will pray for me
    THANKS i pray for me also, and i pray for others all the time

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  45. Its only a show. Yes I do work on my own bikes No, I do not have any
    patchs or colors. If you don't like the sound/story of the show. Turn to something else. If it flops ok, if it does good, ok.

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  46. AMAZING!!! Leave it to the "MEN" to put it in perspective. Thank God the "MEN" wont let us Chicks in the clubs. We would be the voice of reason and put to rest all the petty bickering thats been going on for 40+ years. Imagine everyone who rides a motorcycle being in the same club. Everyone getting along, working towards the same goal. Now that would be awful, wouldn't it. All this animosity over a television show, if you don't like it "DON'T WATCH IT!!!"

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  47. and what would that goal be?? world peace? aint never gonna happen

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  48. hope in the series there will be lots of women pressed into indentured servitude. to preserve authenticity, and such.

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  49. Live to ride/ride to live..just do it..Vespa Vampires

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  50. WOW.....lotsa interesting stuff here.....I too am in a real outlaw club, and I'm looking forward to seeing if maybe this show will "get it right", and I'm hoping it'll be something like the movie "Mask" (Cher, Sam Elliot...years ago)...that flick at least TRIED to show bikers in a sort of authentic light....but like many here I have my doubts.
    Watching the previews, I noticed "Jax" seems to ride a lot without any eye protection....that ain't gonna happen in the real world, at least not til the first bug! And, I'm not much of a fan of the movie industry using the biker image to make $$....and let's face it, that's all they're doing, just like Harley who now embraces the outlaw image to make $$, whereas in the 80's they were trying to distance themselves from us. But, as I said, I'll watch, maybe for a laugh or two, maybe they'll do a good job. Who knows!

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  51. Knucklechaos877/03/2008 01:39:00 AM

    Well theyve been filming this show at my house since March and ive seen alot of the scenes and ive gotta say it looks like its guna be really cool. and all the actors are super nice!

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  52. Namvetfxdwg, good call on the waving bs and all this "we are all brothers" crap. Of course they won't follow your advice and just ride, cause it ain't about the ride anymore its just a fashion show!!
    Support your local Red & Black
    RVN69-70

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  53. sometimes ya just gotta say FUCK IT!!! K.D.S.F

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  54. regarding bikers and their perceived images-
    http://www.thenation.com/doc/19650517/thompson

    Rest in peace Gonzo.

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  55. Ladychann, right on, I hope you keep fighting for our rights. I don't care what people say about riding here or there with permission. The dominate club system works. and you are proving it! once you get in it and learn it its no big deal. Its about respect and thats all.

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  56. So what's the deal with the whole "outlaw" biker gig? You guys really bad boys? You guys go around stealing shit, selling drugs & fucking up no name bikers like me?
    Or is the almighty "outlaw" patch something wanna be?
    You guys chit chat, worrying about your bad name, protect the name, respect the name, etc etc
    Sure, you can get a couple lugheads to go bike tipping and fuck some other rider up. Sure, easy shit...
    Creating Fear is fucking easy.
    Creating Respect is hard.
    Fear is not respect.
    Nobody respects the schoolyard bully, even if he can swing a bat & balance his ass on 2 wheels
    And as for riding free etc etc.... Don't you outlaw clubs have more rules than a prison school?

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  57. An "outlaw" club is a club that is outside the AMA. You People spouting off about illegal activites and bullies have it wrong. As far as our rules, join an MC if you worthy enough, if not, don't worrie about our rules. Our rules don't apply to you.

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  58. For all of you who don't know why the "outlaws" are called outlaws and 1%ers... Do the research!! You all obvoiusly have internet access because you are all bitching on this blog. Look up where the name "oultaws" came from, then 1%. I think you'll find it interesting. This is the reason that my husband and I chose NOT to join an "MC" club. We are, however, part of a wonderful motorcycle enthusiast group, an "association" if you will. We are able to use our motorcycles to do GOOD for our community. And we still enjoy the freedom of the road.

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  59. See this page for more info on 1% clubs and outlaws.

    http://home.earthlink.net/~rcvsmc-edu/id26.html

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  60. Hey everyone,
    I'm the "no name" biker that posted the other day asking what's the outlaw gig all about.
    I'm defined by my actions, and the Love I'm extremely grateful to have from my family & friends. So I couldn't really care less what some thug and his prepubescent loser associates think about anything.
    I'm back on this blog to thank the post that tipped me off with a link to learn more. I read up a bit, and will read up more. Thank you much for the link.
    Turns out They are, according to the little I've read so far, the "outlaw 1%" obnoxious assholes that suck to be around unless you're part of their cute little skirt wearing cheerleader squad. Pathetic Insecurity....
    So I still have some learning to do about the street definition of MC, RC, Rider Associations and etc.
    Uhm... Yea, I'm quite sure I'm not worthy enough to pledge like a frat boy in some biker patch club. I've pledged aplenty (career) in the camouflage patch club. And yes, "I've been there & done that" a couple times.... LoL Like I give a shit.
    I really hope all you friendly bikers out there, enjoy a wonderful ride sometime soon. And to all cool peoples:
    Giggle & Flow.... :-)

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  61. If ya don't limp ya ain't shit !


    lmao ...

    If I have to understand please don't bother to explain...

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  62. Someone said, how many real bikers are sitting with there labtop worring about a TV show..."silence"...then all the hands raise in the air.

    All of us dumb ass.

    FTW

    1%FF1%

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  63. I say let er rip!! this could re deem a little bit of the bad notoriety we all got from the recent Discovery channel shit that got evryone (the public/civilians) bent outta shape. Only saqw one bad thing on the previews and behind the scenes video...The one dude had a "support the red and white"...booo to FX, dont they know its a black and white world??!!!

    SFFS
    Fu

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  64. I will quote one of the other posters by saying, "If you don't like it, turn away."

    That applies to everything and anything. Doesn't matter who or what you are.

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  65. I am a patch holder (1 piece patch) for a club and we support the priemere club in what ever state we are in. All you want to be credit card riders don't know what the hell they are talking about. It is a hard thing to get in to an actual club. Especialy mine since you have to be and stay sober. Most people can not handle it. As for me and my crew we wait to see and watch and laugh....Don't ever count a 1 piece patch out as a true club we just fly below the radar.....Have a great ride..

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  66. Being proud of being a "real biker" is like being proud of being a Nazi, a wife-beater or a drug dealer. You can stroke each other all day claiming your club is about something noble but you all know the truth. I grew up with you "people" and I find it so sad that you actually believe the garbage you spew.

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  67. I have read quite a few of these posts and the pig ass badge holder seems to think we are "crying" about everything...hmm, seems we are just waiting to see how hollywood portrays us to be. Looks like a good hour of tv to me. As far as whining about being judged...well let em judge us because if they knew what things were like in "our world" they would be both impressed and scared. Yea pig, I said scared. You have a gun and badge that you hide behind, I got a leather vest that I stand in front of and will die for. I garuntee you are one of those 5 foot nothing napoleonic idiot bacon greasers that harass us just so you have a story to tell your cosmotoligist girlfriend. You sound like a one man army trying to save the world from big bad bikers. I dont ask to be left alone. This is my life 24/7. I do ask every cop, state trooper, and sherriff that has ever rummaged thru my saddlebags and tried to confiscate my vest the same thing. Where do you hang out when your off duty? Not a one of you have the balls to EVER encounter a true 1%er in our relm.
    You freakin pigs I tell ya. Pull over every rider with a patch, that way all the drug dealers and drunk cage drivers can roll on thru. I dig the reputation we have out there. When we walk into a bar, or hell even a resturaunt and a mother wants to have her picture taken with us, or little kids want to stand on thier chairs to see us park our sleds like the presidents own Marines(I was one muther f%$#er)I get satisfactions in knowing it was you pigs and the discovery channel that got us here. Do they fear us? No, but gen pop wont take a chance and test us. Do they leave just because we show up?No, they are curious about us now. Gotta love it officer pigman. You got no clue what it means to be a 1%er and that lack of knowledge from the gen public is what they love.
    Anyway, I know you have bikers to shoot and shakedown and what not so I bid thee a sizzling farewell.

    1%er Illinois

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  68. Folks, I didn't intend for this thread to be about club bashing, or having clubs bash each other.

    I removed all the comments that post specifics about certain clubs.

    If you want to talk about 1%er world, that's fine, but let's respect all the clubs out there, and not name them as examples.

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  69. I'm curious to see if Ron does his on riding or uses a stunt double!

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  70. To the little bitch that calls all bikers nazzi and wife beaters, Well there are some in your little LOLLIPOP world that is sugar coated. But no one in my club does that shit especialy sense my club Patches woman in. So do I take offense to your thinking yes I do, then you realy do need to be schooled big time....So get your shit straight before you open your mouth......Because that will some day get your ass kicked or killed who depending on who you talk to...

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  71. " Anonymous said...
    Being proud of being a "real biker" is like being proud of being a Nazi, a wife-beater or a drug dealer. You can stroke each other all day claiming your club is about something noble but you all know the truth. I grew up with you "people" and I find it so sad that you actually believe the garbage you spew.
    7/13/2008 11:25:00 PM"

    Next to the word MORON in the dictionary, they put a picture of you. Not all "real bikers" as you put it are bad people. In fact, if you took the time to get to know some you would find that we are as "normal" as anyone else. We just ride on 2 wheels and because of that we are able to see the world in a different light. Don't judge me because I ride on 2 wheels.
    LOOK TWICE...SAVE A LIFE! MOTORCYCLES ARE EVERYWHERE!

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  72. Wow, you "patch holder" cycle guys do take yourselves seriously. Maybe this will help..ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE REAL!! Im a Chicago PD detective, and I can tell you "The Shield" is complete BS. But, its entertainment, get it?

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  73. "real bikers" get a life7/19/2008 09:08:00 AM

    "Can't we all just get along?"
    ....Rodney King....1990

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  74. "real bikers" squeal....7/19/2008 09:12:00 AM

    Wow....can you see the difference in the level of intellect between the Chicago Detective and the "real mc biker?" Just look at the double negatives of the "bikers" and the composition of the detective. I guess it is the difference between a two and three digit IQ.....

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  75. The pig is right, its entertainment. However he is still law enforcement and as much as he doesnt want to admit it, most all cops are tainted. So is there a difference between the cops and one percenters? I would venture to say that the majority of the people that have written something here do not have a clue what the term even means. Moreover, I like when people classify us as stupid and we use double negetives.....wow, that was a stretch for the english teacher, but anyway here is a quiz...The national president of the most feared and yet respected MC, the Mongols, does anyone even have a clue what he does for a living? Here is a hint, his nickname is Doc!!
    Hey english proffesor(spelled wrong to piss you off) here is a math problem...Only 1% of bikers are "bad" people, however 99.9% of cops are corrupt. how many good cops does that leave us?
    Hey you bacon bits out there, keep on giving those seat belt tickets and harrassing bikers. Make sure you hide behind your bpv's badges and guns and shit. In the real world you are all just napoleonic ass holes on a huge power trip.

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  76. C'mon people - it is a TV SERIES. Real Mafia members sat around and watched Godfather and probably Sopranos and laughed their asses off at some things, were annoyed by others but realized it was just entertainment. The target audience is not actual affiliated bikers but people who either wish they were but don't have what it takes or choose not to and people who are fascinated with the mystique, the bikes, the guys, the girls and can watch the show and escape for an hour and then go back to their cubicles, minivans, Toyota Prius's and 401K's. It's entertainment - period. Lighten up! Hey, you really want a laugh go check out "Hells Angels on Wheels" with Jack Nicholson - after watching that movie "Sons of Anarchy" will look like a flippin documentary!

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  77. i'm a patch holder too. if all you patch holders here are tellin the truth, it's funny to see how many real bikers there are on the internet. a lot of my brothers arent internet savvy, let alone even own a computer. haha.
    anyway, i wanna say that anytime an underground culture makes it to t.v. it puts the authenticity of the culture at risk. look how many nerds at the grocery store have "sleeve" tattoos now compared to before all the tattoo t.v. shows. im covered in tattoos cos i wanna be part of the "other side". i ride in a club for the same reason. im not gonna take a "chill pill" while some suit makes a million bucks off our culture. on top of that, rubs are gonna get hurt when they start emulating what they see on this show. lets see what happens when someone puts a california rocker and an m.c. patch on their jacket cos they saw it on t.v.

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  78. Anarchy (from Greek: ἀναρχία anarchía, "without ruler") may refer to any of the following:

    "Absence of government; a state of lawlessness due to the absence or inefficiency of the supreme power; political disorder."[1]
    "A theoretical social state in which there is no governing person or body of persons, but each individual has absolute liberty (without the implication of disorder).
    NO GOVERNMENT=NO CONSTITUTION
    so this show is based on LIERS!

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  79. It's a TV show. Period. Nothing more.

    I would like to ask the real 1%'ers: Would you really want this show to be real? Would you really want the whole world to know your business? Would you really want everyone to see the internal workings of a M/C? I wouldn't think so.

    Be glad that TV keeps spewing this garbage out and keeps John Q in the dark.

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  80. Its not that we want it to be real or expose anything, we just dont want the weekend warrior riders to try and start clubs everywhere after seeing this show. They should know and understand that it takes a life commitment to exist in our world, not just two weekends a month like thier golf club.
    We have support clubs and clubs that have asked for permission to start up but it takes commitment to us and our club in order to become an entity. When " rick Bob and Joe"(generic names) decide to make a patch and fly colors the day after this show comes out, I hope they realize what an ass beatin they will take from a dominant club in there area.
    We all know it happens...even you freakin weekend warriors know shit like that still goes down.
    They (meaning most weekend riders of harleys) have no concept of what the brotherhood is or what it means to us(1%ers). When I say 1%ers i mean members of any of the 4 MC's that earned the right to wear the diamond shaped patch. We protect our brotherhood and cherish it more than our blood families.
    My suggestion is this; dont try to be a part of this lifestyle if you know you dont have the stones. Keep riding and when you see a club hangin out...say hello to one of us. You will probably get a beer out of it and meet a good bunch of guys. Just keep in mind what we have commited to in order to be a member and the love we have for our brothers.
    Keep ridin everyday.
    1%er

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  81. Finely some one I agree with.. Amen to you BRo...

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  82. Anonymous said: "so dont fuckin keep on wavin at me\i dont know ya dont wanna know ya and ya aint my fuckin brother,"

    You are the only one that stands out in this crowd to me. I won't apologize for waving out of respect and comaraderie (not because I think you are my brother), if you don't like it, just look the other way. When you don't wave back, I will know who you are and give you your wide berth. I am not out to change you, you are not going to change me either.

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  83. hey bad kitty, dont sweat it...hes just afraid to let go and wave.
    Our chapter waves at everything...even the gaggle of red and white that sped away when they saw it was us!!! not thats entertainment. Wait, enetertainment???....isnt that what this thread was about anyway!! a show that has bikers runnin guns and such, yet are clean shaven and shower daily!! Man I tell ya this is gonna be good for us(1%ers)because of the bad ju ju that the History chanel spews out about us.
    I ll wave to ya bad kitty, no worries.

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  84. I personally am looking forward to watching the show, whether its what I know better or what I dont know. Ever heard the phrase "ignorance is bliss" and for everyone slammin on the patch holders, respect has to be earned, and if you dont respect others lifestyles, dong expect anyone to respect your. Its a really simple concepts. All the patch holders I have ever met or conversed with have been GREAT guys!

    A 1%supporter in Phx

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  85. This show is pissing off a lot of people in the 1%er clubs, dont matter what patch you wear on your back, we wear a 1%er on the front! Its a lifestyle, not a weekend pass time. Free advice to those who are uninformed, dont take this show to heart, do not go out and try to start up a club without permission from your local 1%er club. You think one is not around, think again. There is a 1%er club in your area, dont get stupid, STUPID HURTS!

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  86. AS RETIRED Police it will be funny to see how they F%$# up the biker scene for entertainment as they do the REAL POLICE work, REAP IT!!

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  87. You guys kill me. It's so easy to be anything you want when you can hide behind the internet. "I'm a 1%, 1 patch, 3 patch, blah blah blah". Chances are, none of you are, because if you are, I just lost my final hope in America. Have we really became so politically correct that the "1% outlaw" group is going to start complaining that someone isn't representing them right or is misportraying them? "Ehhhhh, that show makes us look bad or doesn't show our lifestyle right. Ehhhh, my pussy hurts". Get over it. Since when did "outlaw" ever point to a person that gave a damn what others thought, but hey, I guess the pussification of America has finally extended to the motorcycle clubs. Did Waylon, Hank, or Willie complain about people calling them outlaws? Nope, they just sang their songs and let the people think what they wanted. When did the men in our society start losing their balls?

    I am not a 1%, belong to any association, ride with any club, or participate in any enthusiast club. I ride for myself. I have many friends that ride, several in the 1% clubs, several in fringe groups and none of them act like you guys in this board. I often refer to myself as a 0% because I have no affiliations. I chose to ride because I love the freedom and I feel most free when I'm alone. I don't want to have to defend some guy because wears the same patch as me. He may be an asshole and deserved to get punched in the face. I don't want to go along with someone because we belong to the same club. They may be an idiot be heading somewhere I don't want to go. That's why I'm a lone wolf. It's for me, nothing else.

    It's a tv show, nothing more. Look at it for it's value, entertainment. The shield didn't represent real cops, Law and Order doesn't represent real court rooms, and this show won't represent real bikers, 1% or yuppy class. It's just a show. Get over yourselves.

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  88. wearing a patch is something that only real bikes know what it is like, if some of the fools want to believe it's like wild hogs - so be it. If other choose to believe it's like Son's of Anarchy - so be it. The truth here is that only a patch holder really knows. A TV show is not going to define us or change the way the 'world' looks at us. FTW

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  89. Well, Having read all this, I have to say to the guy that don't wave, You are missing out. I wave at everyone on two wheels and a motor. I ride everyday, work, weekends, whatever. I also ride a Rice Rocket. I have friends that ride Harley's, Big Dog's, etc. I am also a cop. I also started my own Riders Club. "roughcompany dot com" Don't like it? Oh well. I am free and love to ride. I don't care what people think about cops or bikers. Most of the general public only believes what they see on TV anyway. Not many are smart enough to actually do the research and see what the real world is about. I am interested in seeing this show and will probably enjoy it as much as I did "Wild Hogs" and "Biker Boyz". lol.

    So, "Ride hard or stay home" lol.

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  90. As far as "99.9% of cops are corrupt". That is just an assinine statement. That is like saying that 99.9% of 1* bikers are drug dealers or pedophiles. Try not to perpetuate the stereotype.

    Oh, and if you are really an "outlaw" you won't care about anything anyone says about you. That's kinda what that means. Grow up a little all you tough "Outlaw Biker Gang Members". It's TV, not real life.

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  91. ALL THIS "I'M IN A CLUB MAN" TALK, WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S GONNA BE A COOL SHOW. FUCK THIS WANNA BE TUFF GUY SHIT. I'M IN A CLUB...YEAH GUESS WHAT, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO YOU ARE OR WHO YOU KNOW, OR WHO YOUR DOWN WITH, FUCK YOU, AND TURN THE CHANNEL.PUSSY

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  92. I dunno....I'll probably do what I do with most shows. Watch it once. If I like it, I'll continue to do so. If I don't, it's off my radar. No time for bullshit.

    I'm a female bike show vendor. I work alone. I set up at plenty of club events, many of which are for clubs that don't get along very well. Never been a problem. I work hard, and mind my own business. I wear no support shirts, I take my friends from all walks of life. I like who I like for who they are, not the colors on their back. I take people on a case-by-case basis. There are good people and assholes in all walks of life. I do the same thing with people as I do with TV shows. If I meet them and like them, all is good. If I meet them and don't, they are off my radar.

    I believe in that old helmet sticker adage: never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups. It holds as true for MCs as for any other part of the population.

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  93. Yup, had to check first before i posted...
    Cops are corrupt mthe f&*^$ers. Now they are hypocrites!!! Rough Company DOT COM as he put it is a sport bike club that breaks laws by riding fast and stupid, but yet the guy who put it on this thread says he is a cop.
    Hey prick pig, How many kids or grown men have you given tickets to for riding too fast on a sport bike. How many chiks have you let off cause they showed some tittie?
    Now how many bikers have you pulled over and harrassed because you can hide behind your gun and badge you pussy?
    All of you know who have read this know what his answers would be if he could be honest, but none of em are.
    We all know that you fuckers are crooked. Its public record, meaning available for all too see, what tickets are given to what people. Not by name but age and gender.
    When officer pricforbrains gives you a ticket, use discrimination to get out of it by pulling his arrest or ticket records and compare them to you bracket. Garuntee he will have warnings or no ticket issued for females 18-27 compared to males in the same age bracket getting tickets and fines.
    There is no getting out of it copper, all you guys are napolians...

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  94. Hey, "Anonymous" who knows so much about cops, are you one? As far as how many tickets I have given to ANY bikers, the answer would be none. I don't write tickets. As far as riding fast and breaking the law, read more of the rules on the site. "Obey the law" is the number one rule. No one rides with us that can't obey the speed limit or any other law. If thier license and insurance isn't up to date, they don't ride with us. Period. Sorry that you have had such bad experiences with cops, I am sure I would have the same ideas of any group if I had such a mistrust of them. I am sure you have your reasons. Doing what I do, I have crappy experiences with lots of groups, I just remember that everyone is different, and just because they belong to a certain group, they shouldn't be judged by thier associations.

    T-Dub

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  95. t-dub, has your front or rear wheel ever come off the ground in an exhibition of speed? maybe doin a stoppie for the gang banger chiks watchin the tough sportbike riders? based on your site it has and that my friend is against the law!!
    I was NC highway patrol after the Marine Corp up until I realized how hypocritical bein on the job was.
    But this ius when you tell me that you ride the speed limit and never ever pull wheelies or stoppies outside of private property and or special events right?!! even if you speed, but have given speeding tickets to others, you are by definition a hypocryte. as are all cops. Check the video of the cop beatin down the female bartender...I bet you have some "cop" reason for why it was justified. off duty cop beats down female bartender for mixin a drink wrong is no different than off duty cop on sport bike clocked at over 130mph gets no ticket. why are you pigs above the law?

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  96. Ok guys, I am not here to defend Law Enforcement as a whole. Yes, there are some douchebag cops, no one is denying that. There was an bad incident in Denver just this week. I have never been pulled over for speeding or any other display of power. If you are talking about our logo with the sportbike doing a stoppie, that is just a cross between the Wyoming logo and a sportbike. I have never done that. I don't have the skills. I also don't have the skills to do a wheelie on purpose. I wish I did, but age and common sense prohibit that. I am also not here to step on toes or dis-respect anyone. That ain't me.

    "maybe doin a stoppie for the gang banger chiks watchin the tough sportbike riders"
    Trust me, if I ever tried that, it would just end up badly. With me laying on the pavement and everyone else laughing. I am amazed with the amount of skill and practice that takes. I ain't got it.

    I have also resigned from departments that were hypocritical. It sucks that there are that many out there. Trying to justify the cop beating the bartender, which I have watched, is not possible. People snap. It sickens me to see the videos of "When cops go bad". There are several issues with that and most lie with the department they work for. Neglegent hiring, retention, etc. If I had the answers to that, I would be a millionaire.

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  97. Geez. Why do you think so called real bikers are worried about law enforcement breathin down their neck? Because they're usually breaking the law! dugh. It's no more than a bunch of over grown kids, too cowardly to ride by themselves, that find sercurity, comfort, and strength in hanging out with others like them. Grow up, ride for freedom! Freedom doesn't mean acting like trash, patching up, and claiming terratories. Being responsible,ethical, displaying good morals, and treating others respectfully takes heart, confidence, plus shows true courage & individuality. If you want to be dangerous and have to patch up, then go kick the crap out of inner city gang bangers who are disrespecting your neighborhood,kids, and country and do some real good. Other than that enjoy the movie.

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  98. Wow.. So what I have learned here so far is that a "patch" is just like a badge and a gun. Seems to make a person who used to get their butt whipped all of a sudden to become billy I think I'm a bad ass. Guess some people have to get a patch since they can't actually fight for themselves. This is probably gonna piss some people off but I really don't care. I have ridden with all kinds of people ( patch wearing, and none patch wearing), and to those "do gooders", I salute you. We ride for the love of riding a motorcycle.

    Ohh and internet gangbanging doesn't make you a thug or " outlaw biker". I'm glad you guys get hassled by the police, you deserve it. Cause of you dubasses doing stupid crap, I get hassled. So live with it.

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  99. I just wonder if it will air on Thursday nights? (most states, biker night)

    Or maybe even Weds. Meeting night!

    Now, that would be something to see. A bunch of hairy mean bikers watching TV in a meeting.

    Excuse me, I meant a bunch of guys in black leather, chaps and all.

    I miss the days of old. And the bikers that road the winds back then.

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  100. It will air Wednesdays I presume as Sep 3rd is a wednesday...and yes, my chapter plans to watch it, then head off to the 105th in milwaukee.

    "Dumbasses doin stupid crap"

    "...all of a sudden to become billy I think I'm a bad ass."

    my favorite, "a patch is like a badge and a gun"

    So why didnt any of you "do-gooders" riders have anything to say to us when we walked through the little rally you guys organized?(this was a general statement) I know why you didnt, its because you non patch riders know that its a world best left alone, Appreciate the fact that "patch" clubs, 1%ers and others, send people to more charity runs than you can imagine. Dont worry about how tough we are, we know, you dont. You also dont want to find out. Ive said it before, just approach and say hey man, hows it goin and chances are youll find a good man with a spare beer.
    This past weekend alone my chapter spent more than 2300 bucks towards charity runs. Trust me we arent saints but we do what we gotta do.
    Keep up the prejudice towards us, its all good.

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  101. It will air Wednesdays I presume as Sep 3rd is a wednesday...and yes, my chapter plans to watch it, then head off to the 105th in milwaukee.

    "Dumbasses doin stupid crap"

    "...all of a sudden to become billy I think I'm a bad ass."

    my favorite, "a patch is like a badge and a gun"

    So why didnt any of you "do-gooders" riders have anything to say to us when we walked through the little rally you guys organized?(this was a general statement) I know why you didnt, its because you non patch riders know that its a world best left alone, Appreciate the fact that "patch" clubs, 1%ers and others, send people to more charity runs than you can imagine. Dont worry about how tough we are, we know, you dont. You also dont want to find out. Ive said it before, just approach and say hey man, hows it goin and chances are youll find a good man with a spare beer.
    This past weekend alone my chapter spent more than 2300 bucks towards charity runs. Trust me we arent saints but we do what we gotta do.
    Keep up the prejudice towards us, its all good.

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  102. sounds like a good show lookin forward to it. As for all the other rantin' n ravin' goin on... well I got nuthin' cops don't like bikers and bikers don' like cops... only seems natural... and make no bone about it cops ain't bikers. Got no business callin' emselves bikers' As for the 1%ers all the donations in the world ain't ever gonna balance out all the shit ya'll get into and havoc ya'll cause. "we do what we gotta"? bull shit your takin the easy way out. Step to the plate and contribute to society instead of pillagin' from it. You can ride all the charity rides you want donate all the money to good causes you want, just remember that your probabally the reason why the ride needs to happen cuz some poor shit over dosed on the drugs you sell or was shot by the guns you run.... so where is the honor in that? I mean that's EXACTLY the same thing as the cop with a civilian lead foot who gives out speeding tickets all day long. Neither side gets it. Anyway thats just my two cents worth.

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  103. probabally the reason why the ride needs to happen cuz some poor shit over dosed on the drugs you sell or was shot by the guns you run....

    I call that "job security" ...oh yea, Im laughing!!!

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  104. Sounds to me like the people reading and posting on this thread need to get out more.

    I'm a Club Member, I don't Do the Speed Limit, But I don't Run Drugs either, Somewhere in the Middle lies the Truth, there are Scum Bags In Clubs and Scumbags in Law Enforcement, Good People on Both Sides as well. Talking like a Tuff Guy on the Internet makes about as much sense as pissing into a fan.

    All this arguing and nobody's seen the pilot yet.......Gotta make you wonder.

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  105. Drawing from my personal experiences, I’ve come to realize there is a very fine line between cop and criminal as well as there being very fine line between badass and dumbass.

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  106. This is just a tv show and and pretty good one at that. Pretty unrealistic other than the bikes but other than that it was a good watch.
    I grew up around various clubs here in the NW, and I can honestly say some members were good people, that I could party with and others were assholes that you couldnt trust not steal or at least fuck up something for a second. You could apply that to almost any organization though as well.

    Still I don't buy for a second all the "we're just hardworking people, who aren't criminals who believe in freedom and brotherhood" bs though. I saw too much open activity in the clubs that said otherwise, and too many members had legal problems coming from those activities. If the bigger clubs really want to clean the image up a bit how about telling members "if you use, deal or possess meth, you will lose your patch forever, or if you commit a heinous act you will lose your patch, and not recieve protection in prison". Its a start.

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  107. After reading all of this and also seeing the show i'm amazed that there are so many chiming in even before seeing it.A lot of people have valid points on both the show and the mc world in general.I've never known hollywood to get anything right because the truth is normaly pretty boring so it gets a makeover to make it entertaining.That includes "Reality Shows".I'm also amazed at so many folks falling for stereotypes in general.I ride daily.I'm no 1%er nor patch holder but know quite a few of em and some are the only true friends i can count on in a pinch.People call me a "biker" and some don't I could care less about it.I love to ride and my bike even though its just a sporty is my prize posession as well as my main trasnsportation.I don't see this show doing anything at all to change anyones perceptions one way or the other just as these posts won't.for me the show is totaly off base which i expected it to be but it was entertaining so ill watch a little longer and then form an overall opinion of it.if i don't like the show ill simply turing it too something else if i do ill continue to watch.I just wanna say for all sides don't fall for stereotypes.I am at the moment being recruited by a local 3 patch mc and if i get in then fine if not fine.The colors will not change me.i'll still be the same guy as before putting em on if i indeed do earn the patches.Regardless I'll continue to ride and live by the code of the road enjoy my bike and mind my own business

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  108. I'm a VP in a 3 patch club and I'm not gonna waste my time even watching it. The producers will provide whatever the public will enjoy, and not give a damn how it influences them or portrays us. So why do I want to add to the ratings by even watching it??

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  109. Goodshow.I really enjoyed it. Cops are cops and criminals are criminals. Some are both. There are cops in 1% gangs too. look at Sturgis this year.

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  110. I am really proud of all the bikers who placed their comments, living in NorCal and spending time with these guys, I know and you know what the real deal is... Hollywood will never get it right, but at least Harley riders now have the spot light for once!!! Come On, all NEW leather vest that don't look like a semi ran over them !!! Hmmm we know better!! There are good guys and bad guys in every club.. Most of the guys I know are hard working wage earners who love their families and bike family and would die for either one. I am sick of how people define bikers by what a small percentage do... At the same token its a reflection of the general population anyway right?? Look at any political family or religious family and you will find drugs, illegal deals, illicit affairs the list goes on and on.. I have mc bikers in my family and very proud of them and their devotion. Not everyones perfect.biker or no biker... Its a tv show thats going to expoit bikers for money??? so what else is new, they are running out of genre's.

    Support your local 81

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  111. What a joke. Sensitive scumbag bikers. Give me a break!

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  112. Everything I learned about being a biker, I learned in the third grade.

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  113. please dont confuse MC with "motorcycle club" the MC patch usually indicates criminal involvement. but if you just wanted to abbreviate the word then i understand. Just wanted to clarify.

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  114. MC does not automatically mean criminal activity! What planet did you come from!? I'm not a patchholder but I respect the lifestyle. I ride and people look at me like I just broke out of prison. I'm an engineer and work in state government! Being in an outlaw gang doesn't automatically mean you're a criminal. There is a club called "Outlaws" (OFFO - they know what it means). I know a few and they are great guys. I like the show for the entertainment value but don't go trying to analyze it for it's "social" significance. IT'S TV... and nothing more.

    Breeze

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  115. "OFFO - They know what it means". So does everybody else. Outlaw forever forever outlaw. Just like AFFA, etc. come on' The general public is well aware of the meaning of all the cute little patches those tough guys have on thier jackets. Most are pretty much over the hill welfare recipients who have no social skills to speak of. That is NOTHING to be proud of. Being an uneducated white male that knows how to ride a motorcycle and sell meth and guns is not ANYONE's idea of the American dream. It's not freedom, it's laziness. I don't care about the show, it's TV. It's not real, it's not "cool". I am talking strictly about the 1%'ers. Don't try to give me that anti-social bs either. That "society just doesn't get me man." You are violators of the peace and dignity of the country. Don't believe me, check the news lately, "HA Nevada President put in prison for possession of child porn and drugs". That's the American dream huh? Idiots. Lemme guess, you wanna beat me up now? figures.

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  116. Nice rant you non-educated prick. You want to bring up how we are all welfare recipients... Wow, shows how much you research before you attack.
    Here are a few examples of 1%ers that are far, far from what you think we are...

    Pres of the Mongols-hes a freakin doctor.
    That is the only one I will name only because he doesnt hide what or who he is, but here is another one...

    Me. VP of a Chapter/Club. Former US Marine with a bronze star, combat action ribbon, purple heart, naval commendation with a combat V, and now an engineer with one of the largest construction companies in America.

    Not bad for a couple of welfare recipients.
    Im sure that no one I assosiate with that is a 1% is on welfare. We leave that to the lazy, ignorant, persons in this rancid society.

    I bet your gonna vote for Obama to try and keep guns out of the hands of criminals. What a joke. Check your mailbox, I think your state check has arrived.

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  117. Former U.S Marine. Now a VP of a 1%'er gang. huh, so you served your country, and now you are doing a dis-service to your country. Makes sense.

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  118. HIGHLY DECORATED former Marine...get it right.

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  119. Wow amazing a bunch of REAL bikers, Well you guys got one thing right they do not portrait you guys the right way. I have been watching and have not seen any of them blogging and sitting around watching a weekly tv show. Stay hard

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  120. Haha.. that was quite a read. Lots of true stuff... lots of BS (more bs than anything). A true 1%er and a true patch holder does not go around parading it. Most patch holders know what they are.. they don't need to go around telling everyone. In fact, many clubs don't ride with colors unless they are in a group or at an event.

    Im not a patch holder and to tell you the truth, Im too young to be a real 1%er.. I am at heart a rebel or an outlaw if you will, but I am a loner. If I am honored enough to be asked to wear a patch.. then my decision will be based on the men.. not the club.

    I have known a few greybeards.. they are the true 1%ers.. they lived the lifestyle before it was "cool". The modern biker, with some exceptions, is just a style.. a fad. I love my bike and have made a lifestyle of riding. I have respect for real 1%ers.. they've seen it all. They are the ones that will stop and help you when your 2007 big dog breaks down. They are the ones that will help you get that part that you cant get from the dealer. They are the ones who are the real 1%ers.

    Not to say that there isn't a certain element in most clubs.. but the truth is there is always a criminal element in every group. Cops, politics, priests, soldiers.. they all have people who walk the dark side.. its just how the world works. Why should bikers be singled out?

    As far as the show goes, which was what this post was originally about, I've watched a few episodes and so far I like it. Some things are total bs.. but after all, it is a show. For example.. none of those assholes can shoot worth shit! lol Like others have said.. real life is boring most of time. Hollywood is all about spicing up and forggeting real life.. The only thing I was disappointed with is the bikes... I was hoping for some old school scoots!

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  121. This last episode was the best so far. (Patch over) My god it was funny. The dog on crank. I about peed myself. The old west walk-down gun fight. Sam is right, these guys need some target practice. The sportbiker getting his ass handed to him. The "before and after" pictures. I has laughing the whole time. And Gemma is freakin' hot. MILF CHubby!!!!!!!!!

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  122. Here's an idea for all you hot shots out there who want to trash talk bikers and our way of life. Next time you see a biker(not a weekend warrior, but a real biker), go up to him and tell him to his face what you are typing here on your computers in the safety of your homes and offices. Then you can start a new blog telling about what happened to you. You see, if I want to tell someone something, they hear it. I don't go home and type it out on a computer and then not put my name. In short, if you aren't going to leave your name...SHUT UP. If you are just mad because your woman thinks about being on the back of my bike instead of in your Buick, that's your problem. Not mine. I look forward to the new blog telling of how you told off the "lowlife, welfare" biker and how he bent you into a pretzel and took your ol' lady. Until next time...

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  123. its a tv show entertainment. who cares if its not accurate

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  124. Yeah shows now 4 weeks deep and its incredible. It is entertaining. For all those people who post about what it potrays, stop making drama because no one wants to take part in it, its just a waste of time, if you have to rant about people being mean or being nice, just keep your stereotypes to yourself, because either way you look at it, you are the same leaving this forum as you were when you entered. You didn't change anyones thoughts on anything, just accept that there is always going to be someone out there that will oppose you. You don't have to be right 100 percent of the time, just know that.

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  125. OK now that I've watched a few of the episodes I've been able to make an informed decision. While I've never been a member of an MC, RC, MM, VMC or any other designation out there, I've been riding for the last 28 years. Ok I took 6 years off when my son was born.
    This show is exactly what it is a dramatized, larger than life, entertainment program. As for some of the posts out there claiming 81 or any other 1% MC was assisting in production I seriously doubt that as there are issues that even a RUB would notice as incorrect. Colors worn in a cage would be the easiest to notice.
    For the other posts that slam the motorcycling community stating we're; welfare recipients, criminals, or other leaches on society, I'd like to know where you get your data. Every member of an MC I've ever met was employed, and taking care of his obligations. How the h**l does one afford the beer, food, whiskey, and parts little lone the bike and needed bail money if they are unemployed and constantly in jail. Personally I've been an engineer for a large consulting firm since I separated from the military 15 years ago. Still ride the 79 FLH I bought when I was in college.
    Cheap shots from anonymous web posts just breed anger and contempt for the motorcycling community.

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  126. As the daughter of a very old "outlaw" in GA, I can say from my first hand experience this is not the real deal. But I don't care, I love the show anyways. My dad and his friends were/are real peices of Sh$!!! A bunch of ignorant child-molestors, would bring there whores back to the house and bang em in front of all the kids. Never had money for food or for kids clothes, but always had money for drugs, bear, and bars... Maybe not all biker clubs were this way, but if not, how did they make money? And what's the point? IMO, biker clubs are white-man gangs...

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  127. Quite a spirited discussion. Most of you have already said it, {whichever view you hold} and many of you say it better than I.

    I see the show as a show, with quite a few "hollywood" moments. I enjoy the soap-opera style of writing, I think it is very creative, with enough twists to make at least me wonder WTF or where does this tie in, sort of interest.

    Some here say they are patchers, some aren't, some say they are 1%'ers, some say they are 99'ers. Cool, doesn't matter to me how your affiliation is. Doesn't even matter to me if you don't have an HD, maybe you ride some other roadbike brand.

    Just for my own curiousity~~~~~~~

    How many of the purported 1%er's here wear that strip of cloth on their back?

    How many of any of you don't wear gloves or eye-protect?

    Why are so many anonymous? I'm Tam, aka Knifeblade or KB to my people.

    Just wondering, this is a good discussion group.

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  128. In any case, I would have liked to see Scott Glenn as Clay. Perlman is a good choice, but I feel Glenn would have been better. I'm curious to see what develops with Devil Tribe now they are patched-over. And with the hanger who's after the prospect. And what's brewing with the Moglos and the skinheads.

    Point is, it's tv.

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  129. willa in ky
    clear my calendar every wensday to watch actually the whole family watches. Really love the show. Hope it stays around for a long time. Love all the actors

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  130. Seriously? why are so many of you getting mad about the way you will be percieved? I absolutley love the show and if you pay close attention in the show they may run guns and whatnot but they also portray them as good guys that keep drugs off the streets and gangs out of the town. If you really want a reason to piss moan and complain watch any "gang" movie outside of Redemption starring jamie fox and see how they are portrayed and i have known quite a few and i must say most of them were really good guys and gals that looked at it as more of a brotherhood than a street gang. So i dont really think you guys have it so bad so seriously stop bitching and just enjoy the show no one cares what your ranks and affiliations are if you are talking about it then your bragging in a subtle way and you obviously like people thinking your a hardass so you perpetuate this image on yourselves. Read a book or two and wise up guys.

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  131. I was wondering the same thing about the "pilot" episode. I've been viewing from first aired, no Glenn or anything.

    Meh, it's still a good show, I'm wondering if the female ATF'er has the hots for Jax now.

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  132. Let me tell you dumb buttheads something. Who gives a shit if the show doesnt fucking appeal truth. We are not going to hate bikers. This is a show made for entertainment. We aint watching no fucking history channel. Of course the fucking SOA's are gonna do some fucking cruel shit. That is what makes the viewers coming back to watch more. N besides one of the big themes in the show is "FAMILY COMES FIRST." So you dickwads who think this show is horrible because it doesnt depict a true story well I want to fucking see you fucking make the same fucking show and at the same time attract many viewers. I'll bet you you dont even have the fucking experience or head to do it. And what the fuck is wrong with sneakers. Sneakers are made for anything. Why do you need a fucking special fucking motorcycle shoes to ride a harley? hahaha, this isnt bike racing dumbwats.

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  133. IM DANNY DOLAN THE REAL PRESIDENT AND SHOW CREATOR OF SONS OF ANARCHY AND KIM SUTTER IS NOTHING MORE THAN A COMMON THEIF I WAS PUNKING THESE PEOPLE AT NASH MOTORCYCLE COMPANY IN VANCOUVER WASHINGTON WHEN I CAME UP WITH BRINGING THE CLUB BACK TO LIFE THEY WENT DOWN BY THE US FEDRAL MARSHALL SERVICE AND DECIDED TO DO IT LEGIT LIKE AND MADE A BUSINESS PROPOSAL TO DO IT ON FX SO IT WAS LEGIT AND WHAT HAPPENS THIS PUNK KIM SUTTER A PHONY TRYS TAKEN CREDIT FOR MY WORK YOU WHAT THINGS ARE BAD BUT I CAN STILL AFFORD A BULLET AND SOME GAS THIS GUYS A PUNK DAN DOLAN CREATED THE SONS AND ITS COPYRIGHTED IN MY NAME AND THE CONTENT OF THAT VIDEO GUESS IM RIDEING TO HOLLYWOOD !!!CK OUT MY MY SPACE \DANDOLAN

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  134. To Anonymous said... Sneekers are good for riding!!! give me a freaking break here!!!!!!!!you must have about 2 min. riding Experience. Sneekers offer no protection for your feet in a crash.number one they will fly off at a moments notice and leave your feet bare to the grinding effects of the pavement if you have an Accident. belive me i know as i have gone down and wore the leather off down to the steeltoes on my boots after hitting a large dog once.
    number two you look like some newbee rub dork with white sneekers on a bike.
    If you insist on wearing sneekers on a bike you might as well wear shorts too to complete the Ensemble and make sure that there is maxmum skin exposure to the pavement when (if you ride enough)go down!!!.

    ShOvEl BoB

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  135. Well, I can see just walking out with whatever you have on, to do the quick grocery store or etc. errand. But, I agree with ShovelBob, take the few minutes for boots, gloves, and a jacket, you NEVER fucking know if/when something happens that you dump~~~~~~At speed or just turning a corner in front of a white-hair. Or ya get a wild hair on a nice day, and decide to just road for a while. Sneakers????????? Don't make me laugh, too much. I've done it, and regretted it. Boots always!!!!!!!!!!! Feet down when bike is stopped, DUH!!!!! Nuff said.

    Saw a ricer, sneaks, shorts, T-shirt scream off the line at the traffic light RIGHT AT MY PLACE, saw him lose and dump, one f'ed up mofo. He turned out okay, by grace of biker's angels, but, I'm with Bob, fuck that silly shit.

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  136. I have never been part of an mc but my uncle and father do wear a cut. and Ill tell you this they dont give a crap about the show or what its like. as long as they can ride. petty stuff does not matter to a real biker such as the show and how well it is put together. grab a tissue or a tampon and shutup.

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  137. I've been enjoying SOA since it premiered, in part because Perlman's in it but after one episode both my wife and I decided it was going to be good -- but we both went in knowing it's just TV.

    I write a little fiction myself, and I tend to notice themes, storytelling techniques and character types. The writers on this show have set up a lot of character arcs that can go all sorts of ways, depending on how serious they are about what they're doing.

    Almost none of these are dependent on MC authenticity (though they may very well be working very hard at it), but that's to be expected: as has been said repeatedly here, only people who have worn a patch would ever have any idea what's authentic. The writers for SOA are writing for the whole audience, not just the patchholders. SOA is hardcore storytelling and that's what should always take first place.

    I'm really not looking forward to the end of the first season. I hope they're not planning a long hiatus.

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  138. For a while there, I was starting to loose interest in the show, but this last episode has me going.. the one where jacks shot the ATF thug... The next episode looks good too..

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  139. ayep, back to the original idea of this subforum~~~~~~~~

    It's soap-opera style with a twist.

    8 twists I see,

    1} Where's the female ATF'er
    2} Is "the enemy of the enemy" Darby going into alliance with SOA, even though Mayans tried to off him, and SOA know he set them up
    3} How does the dead ATF dude play now that Jax {sub 1} got bloody, {sub 2} is hooked into Tara, {sub 3}Gemma hates Tara
    4} Where's the extra $5K Jax seems to have pocketed. Do the math.
    5} No word on sweet-butt, the mechanic, the bones found, the patch burned-off dude, or the patch over club {although I think the prior DT gets called in}
    6} What develops with the wounded IRA gun-seller-ambulance-alliance.
    7} How did the ATF guy manage to pop back in this episode after being seen ridden out? But that explains, sort of, the guy, and ends it to the tag in #3, rather slick writing.
    8} Who or what is Otto, who carries enough weight to make a whore give up 50K.

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  140. Kathy in Kentucky

    I've sit here and read every blog and here is what I have to say......As far as what the blog was SUPPOSED to be about SOA I love it, as a show. My whole family is into it, what I mean by family is my husband and me and my oldest son. We love the show. Now for the blogs I have read...99% of you don't know SHIT about being in a OUTLAW gang.The only person that had it remotely right was the girl who said her father was in a gang and her life was crazy because there was all kinds of money for beer and drugs but never enough for food and clothing and all the real needs a child may have. I have rights by birth and I walked away and am so proud of that because my children weren't raised in what I was. Molested, raped,hungry, dirty, abandoned, not protected like I should of been by my parents. All the parties and all the drugs and raids and social workers. All the killings and fights that were never investigated I know the life I saw 30 years ago ina real Outlaw family. I still love the riding, and as far as the show sometimes I laugh and my husband says "that isn't how it is, is it honey" and I say"hell no!!!" but I will always be a biker chic and I love the sound and I love and respect the ones who helped me as a child and my Papa Smurf who "adopted" me and tried to show me love as HE knew it. Times are different now than they were then. The bikers are different know than they were then. Thank God.If you are going to be pissed off about the show- don't watch it- noone is forcing you!! Its not real it surely don't portray a real group and not even close so what- its Hollywood.

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  141. There are alot of crybabies on here. I bet they are big fans of the 8 ball patch.

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  142. Only on an eight-ball run in a pool league match.

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  143. And that's on the team shirt, not the colors.

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  144. Anyways~~~~~

    Jax burned the dude, got "angst", took back the manual {for lack of better description}.

    There's still a play against the Mayan's, I doubt the hitter getting wasted was enough.

    K, the Port Authority dude got wasted, tag is how it ties in with the wounded gunrunner, and what segues might occur from that. Jax got blooded, now he's getting in deeper.

    Question here, and I just ask for your deliberation, I DO NOT want any answer from anyone here, since this is NET and public, get the drift?

    Anyone pop a cap or do other major damage to anyone else?

    I leave that as it is.

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  145. As with most(DRAMA)movies and tv shows SOA is entertainment.I,as a HARLEY rider love the show. Just as I loved(HERE COMES BRONSON). SOA IS NOT REALITY. It does not come close.I do not beleive that anyone who ever wore one of the (4)TRUE 1%ers M/C colors would disagree. For the most part the girl from GA.(as bad as I hate to say it)is right. That being said,I say NOT EVERY BIKER IS BAD/NOT EVERY COP IS GOOD. That life. ITS STILL A GREAT SHOW. As for the want to be outlaws, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

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  146. What happened top the prospect?? Havent seen him, but then again A friend tivo's it for me and I am behind three episodes. Last one I saw was the mayans boss, his son being murdered by the churro guy.

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  147. if its not real then why dont the HA AND THE OUTLAWS SET AN HAVE COFFEE AVERY MORNING INSTEAD OF KILLING EACH OTHER OPPS GIVE ME A BREAK THE MCS HAVE BEEN KILLING AN RUNNING DRUGS AN WHORS FOR AS LONG AS MCS HAVE BEEN AROUND AT LEAST THE SONS ARE NOT RUNNING DRUGS

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  148. Its a living....and home depot wasnt hiring.

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  149. Lighten up everybody,give the show a chance, if you don't like it I will watch it for you!!! lol Stacie

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  150. hello, guys mc member or not, i am not a mc member i do wear a lone wolf no club patch looks just like a real thing, some of my mc member friend love it and some dont, i just ridding, i think this club thing is going to crazy, i ride because is fun, in fact i have about 10 friend to want to wear this lone wolf patch we are not club member but we friends just like that wild hogs friend ridding together looking for no trouble, there's not for crazy violent crap if someone looks for trouble then you do something about but if they dont why start. i think the show is great.

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  151. I am the 'old lady' of an Australia outlaw MC member and was told about Sons of Anarchy by a friend in Canada. We searched the internet and have now watched all but the last 3 episodes and think it is one hell of a show and has shown club life very much as it is. I say well done to all involved roll on season 2. I only hope they bring it to air in Australia.

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  152. This is absolutely the best show on tv!!! The casting is superb and the storyline is also awesome!

    I can't hardly wait until the next season....BUT WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE??

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  153. This the most fabulous show on tv. My entire family can't hardly wait when it airs and we watch all of the repeats. The casting is superb. PLEASE WHEN IS IT GOING TO AIR AGAIN??

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  154. Last word heard, "unofficially" is the 2nd season doesn't start until Fall '09. Which I think will be disastrous in that many of the 5.4 million average viewers may not return to see it.

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  155. ron perlmans the motherfuckin shit. katey sagals fuckin smokin hot. and the show is 10 times better then walker: texas ranger.

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  156. this show is amousing, remanincent of my past with a 1% club. In the beginning, early 70's, we had each other's back, but by the early 80's, we were turning on each other. The real meaning of the brotherhood ended with this type of behavior. Check out Ganglands on the History Channel with Jimmy D. It's all TRUE! I'm so glad I left that life behind, all the good ole bikers are gone! RIP

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  157. This show is the shit!

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  158. I wish this idiot genre would dry up and blow away. It started with the Billy Jackass saga. You have a young guy spouting Thomas Paine and Confusius inbetween sceenes where he's kicking the crap out of the villagers. Enough!

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  159. As an "independent" motorcycle rider for over 25 years in the wind, and for you diehards - YES on a HARLEY, I enjoyed the first season of this show. As a whole bikers will never get a break from the law REGARDLESS of being a patch holder or not. I'm a diehard 1% supporter of ANY outlaw club as I believe in the right to express yourself in any way you feel, as long as your not out to hurt anybody. Unfortunately, the show does depict outlaw clubs in a very negative manner and I've had more asinine comments and questions about the lifestyle that were never brought up before SOA so that tells me that John Q public is living in a world that believes everything they see on TV and only enhances their screwed up outlook on us bikers. FOR THE MORONS OUT THERE, the idiots on the crotch rockets who think 120+ MPH is the only way to ride cause more problems then we do!!! Rick

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  160. NOW that I read EVERY post here....

    To the Anonymous Asshole who wrote this on 8/19/2008 @ 05:19:00PM:

    "Ohh and internet gangbanging doesn't make you a thug or " outlaw biker". I'm glad you guys get hassled by the police, you deserve it. Cause of you dubasses doing stupid crap, I get hassled. So live with it."
    Living in anonymity is glorious for moronic PUNKASS BITCHES like you!!! Talking shit while hiding yourself on the net is real tough. I DON'T fly colors, never have - never will, BUT I'll tell you this you puny little girlie boy, as I said in my previous post I support any 1% MC and have occasionally ridden as backup for a club or two in my time..... That being said, people like you are the reason why people like me beat the shit out of you....Doesn't make me, as you so eloquently put it a "thug or outlaw biker", it makes me a person who despises big mouth punks like you!!
    MOST MC's are just as conscious of the world beyond their clubs and that is why if people like you took the time to pull your head out of your asses and open your eyes and LOOK you'd see the charity rallies and runs they do for John Q Public. This is done because they WANT too NOT because they have too and this is done NOT because as another ignorant poster stated because maybe they felt amends needed to be made or to get bail money for another member....Some of you people sure are STUPID!!!
    The person who said most bikers are on welfare is REALLY F*CKIN" retarded, statistically speaking the average biker earns $50,000+ a year. I'm a commercial electrician with a master electrical license and my Bachelors degree in Electrical Engineering. Bought my first Harley at 17 and still own it along with 3 others. I must get a BIG welfare check...LMMFAO.
    Make no mistake all you wanna be posers and RUB's, I'm easy to find, just ask me!! I'm either in GA. or at my other home in PA., just ask! There are couple of biker sites I belong to also, just look for Detained.
    Here's a little website for you dumbasses on explaining 1%er/outlaw bikers that I googled.
    http://www.jusbrothersmc.com/1outlaw.htm

    Damn I HATE people!!!

    Ride Hard, Stay Safe.......
    Rick aka Detained

    DILLIGAF

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  161. i belong to this mc.i belong to that mc. what a bunch of whiney joiners. be a man go your own way. throw a bag on your iron and fucking ride!geesh next thing you now it wont be just 3 peice back pathces that make you feel wanted and loved and warm and protected and give you that fuzzy feeling. youll all be wearing little eye patches and pirate hats and have a secret handshake. itys bad enough you dont let women join. for christ sake,who wants to belong to a club that bars women?but i guess if you have to be in a club than it only follows that you think girls are "icky".

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  162. "WOW" what started off as comments about a TV Show, that I found more etertaining then the TV Show COPS. seemed to turn into a bashing of sorts. Being a Biker is not about the colors we wear or the patches we earn, it's a lifestyle we all have one thing in common, and that's the Bikes. Most all of the 1%ers started off as ex Milatary, fighting together to ensure the "FREEDOM" of our country, I don't think I will ever understand why now they are at war with each other over Territory or Patch Bottom Rocker. Just think if all the Bikers in this country stood together in Brother what a National Gaurd that would.

    Ride Free

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  163. ive just seen the colors( full set) for sale on ebay.!! i wonder what would happen if u wore it on your back,at a uk bike rally?
    im sure it would be tore off ur back ..dont u?

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  164. I personally loved the show. Not a patch holder, I understand it's hollywood - but it's great entertainment.

    I'm curious with season 2 coming though. Last year at Laconia, NH bike week there were hordes of hired kids promoting the show with tv vids hanging off their necks and t-shirts promo stuff. Being Laconia is an HA event for the most part I wonder if we'll see FX doing the promos for season 2 and how they'll be received. My sense is most real biker clubs are tolerant of the show.

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  165. I have been around clubs for 20 yrs,seen many.this show is realistic other than the actors and at times they go a little far out, but some clubs do run guns, drugs , murder, and each other, doesnt mean they all do but the ones that do know who you are, dont act innocent, and get pissed because its you watch to much tv or listen to the wrong people kind of thing,its straight up, so what just dont get caught or turn on each other, I am not putting you down by no reason or way, but truth is the truth and i have met many that are good people, your not mc your organize crime thats all.so what!!!! i dont want no hate mail for being real, plus it doesnt bother me I put my pants on the same as you and been there,

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  166. Everybody Chill!!!!!!, This is for ENTERTAINMENT and all you MC's yea you have a reason to be pissed cuz now there's gonna be a "wannabe following" so you might get some people wanting to "prospect in" well, its a double bladed sword!! This show will get you some respect from the public for those blue collar who dont know what MC's stand for its always been a Brotherhood you watch your Brothers Back and Help through the tough times the good and the bad , maybe that will be worth the bulls;[t when people realize its not all guns and beer!

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  167. I am John Q. Public, and I love SOA!

    It's got pathos...drama, violence, suspense, and humor. The storytelling is vivid and in-your-face, the cinematography ranges from merely good, to excellent.

    I've always liked Ron Perlman (I watch a lot of bad scifi :-) ) And Katey Sagal makes me believe she's real; not to mention she's very attractive (kinda reminds me of my wife).

    All-in-all, it's a great show so far. My favorite scene...Episode 10 or 11 when Katey Sagal is standing in the doorway behind Maggie Siff as Cherry and the Irishman are loaded on the truck to get out of town...I felt a connection...as if two generations of matriarchs in this story were framed in a picture that was worth many thousands of words.

    Full disclosure: though I think the HD motorcycle is a thing of beauty, I don't own one (Mortgage, taxes, and my reloading hobby get in the way). I wouldn't know a real "outlaw biker" if I met one at the PTA. All the Harley owners I've ever met were middle aged men who had a fair amount of disposable income (lawyers, chiropractors, skilled tradesmen, etc); who else could afford them? ;)

    From a consumer (viewer, reader, etc) perspective, audiences empathize with romanticized outlaw tales. Why do you think the Jesse James & Billy the Kid mythos is so popular? Why is John Dillinger still a hero...especially to those who know the truth of his story?

    The producers chose wisely in the way they chose to frame this particular outlaw gang. You see, drug dealers and pimps are not well regarded even amongst Libertarian types like myself who understand the absurd folly of outlawing drugs & prostitution...

    But guns...that is genius! By choosing gun trading as the "outlaw" in outlaw biker...the producers automatically framed the club as 'good guys' in the mind of a huge segment of the viewing audience. And using the ATF as the bad guy...even better. Particularly in light of the fact that second only to the IRS, the ATF has the worst reputation for corruption, abuse and murder of any criminal gang in history.

    You see, this nation was founded by conspiracy nuts who supplemented their income by smuggling. By 'conspiracy nuts' I refer to belief that the crown was embarked upon a deliberate program to reduce their rights (see "The ideological origins of the American Revolution" By Bernard Bailyn).

    Consequently, a large number of us are strong supporters of "natural" gun rights (screw the 2nd amendment, I'll be armed even after it's gone); and the right to self defense by any means necessary. Not to mention the blatant unconstitutionality of the 1934 National Firearms Act.

    Like I said...genius storytelling.

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  168. Real bikers dont waste time surfing the net. Just a thought.
    ;-)

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  169. ya all sound like a bunch of pussys , i ride alone 0n a 57 pan, don't need a bunch of stupid club rules or the need to belong to the gang thats cool, and i'm 60 years old rideing since 68 and yea i did drugs and drank a lot and still drink, all you hard core patch on your ass bikers need to grow up

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  170. I wonder why the lead guy Jacks is from england this show is a bunch of homo's

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  171. Nick Gruetzmacher9/11/2009 09:53:00 PM

    My facts: I come from a very MC orientated area, and see a cut at least everyday. My father is in a MC and an ABATE member, my friends dads are in MCs, even a few of my buddies have been patched into the club. I've been in the MC world my ENTIRE life, I started riding with them when I turned 19('78 Superglide) a few years back. All that aside: I love this show. My father is also a fan of this show. Bullshit aside, the show doesn't show MCs to be murderous huns out to rape and kill the next virgin they see, but it does show one thing: That people are interested in MCs. It's the most watched show on television right now, and that's not because of the fine peices of ass on it. This could help MCs get a broader base, get more people involved. It's not for every yuppie out there, I know, but it will help MCs get a wider base of respect from every angle. Law, civilian, so on so forth. And it is just a television show. Do you really think people think that everything they see on TV is real? I don't think TJ Hooker is gonna kick my door in everytime I see a cop, and I don't think I'm looking at a 1%er everytime I see a guy on a fucking motorcycle.

    It's a good show, that's it. A SHOW. And if it entertains me while I drink me a cool beverage, so be it.

    Oh, and fuck you pussies posting anonymously. If you got a patch, what the fuck would you be worried about posting your real shit?

    Quad Cities, Illinois/Iowa.

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  172. My two pennies.

    I like the show. I don't have any way of knowing if it truly represents a 1%er outlaw club but if it does then great.. if it doesn't, then I still wouldn't be the wiser.

    Do I hope it is an accurate description of MCs? Yes. Why? Because it seems to me the MC brotherhood is strong. I am familiar with that way of life.

    They stick together and do bad things in the name of their club but still have an underlying core of values. Not unlike any US military organization I've been part for many, many years.

    I ride an early model HD Fatboy that I've customized myself and enjoy the ride... I don't wear a patch of any kind on my old leather vest.. really don't want to make that committment right now, the only thing on it is alot of dead bugs. If I do someday join a club, the club I join will have the same redeeming qualities as SAMCRO does, which is ... I was going to say honesty but if you have watched the show you know there are alot of secrets, however, the secrets so far have been to protect somebody from an evil truth or mistake, which is common in most peoples lives. Maybe that ain't the honest thing to do but is the right thing to do in the situation.

    Generally I'd seek the same qualities as I mentioned in the beginning of this. I like the bikes. What motorcyle lover wouldn't? The women are nice, hot doctor, the morning after bar scenes at the club are interesting...the club family is just that - Family, and all good families have one thing in common which to me is togetherness no matter what.

    Hell, watch the show and make your own opinion. It is entertaining and appeals to me like any good movie, tv show or book does..it takes you away into a fantasy land for a few moments.

    Once again, the real reason I haven't joined a MC is because I don't have the committment for one. Honest truth.

    Good luck to SAMCRO season two - I'll be watching
    Dan

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  173. MC or No MC?..To Patch or not to patch?..Badass or not Badass...hmm..
    I WAS A COP! I WAS A CORRECTIONS OFFICER! FOR TOO MANY YEARS. GREW REAL DISILLUSIONED AND LEFT IT TO 'FIND MYSELF' WHICH I DID THRU THE BARS OF A HARLEY, WHO THE FUCK CARES!
    ITS NOT IMPORTANT!!!
    RIDE IF U WANNA RIDE.
    SIMPLE EQUATION.
    ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
    IN THE END ITS JUST YOU AND GOD.
    BE TRUE TO YOURSELF.
    SO FUCKIN SIMPLE.
    THIS IS ALL JUST MENTAL MASTURBATION GOIN BACK AND FORTH...
    THATS ALL FROM ME...

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  174. I have started watching the show. I LOVE it so far, not the fact of "badass" bikers, but the brotherhood of it all. The community connection they have. I would love to live in a town that was like that. I work in a field that I have all types of people coming in, meeting and talking with. I do not belong to a MC but I have known a few, without them actually telling me - of course. I respect them and in turn, I get respect. I also know, if in trouble, I have help. THANKS

    LIL MS TAXPAYER

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  175. Blaaahahaha! This is GOOD stuff my friends! I was just surfing the net, looking for "SOA" gear for Christmas stocking stuffers this year....and fell right into this forum...GREAT!

    I wear a patch...to quit smoking! Sheesh people, put a bullet in it and just enjoy life. Any "real" biker will tell you, that is what riding is about...enjoying life to the fullest, feeling the wind in your face (used to be hair before helmet laws), feeling the commodity between family and friends out on the road...damn! It sure as hell aint about what kind of trouble you are gonna get into next!

    The show is for entertainment purposes, not the purpose of the deep, dark look into MC's. My hubby and I ride, well he rides, I just come along for the tow :) I have ran across many MC's, bikers, clubs...and yes, they all have a different meaning, and many of them are good people, some...not so much!

    A few of the "younger crowd" seem to want to make riding about "Sons of Anarchy", but that is just their testosterone not fully matured yet. The stares, the looks, the bad-ass attitude...they will one day outgrow it, or get the tar kicked out of them by a real man (or woman).

    I completely enjoy riding, I even enjoy the sometimes tough girl feeling I get...but all in fun, all in fun.

    Ride on people and don't sweat the small stuff...like Television Networks!

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  176. When the shit hits the fan in this country and the REAL Nazi's come to take your guns, your freedom and the whole deal, it will be the 1%'ers and other bikers who may finally save this country from itself and finally restore some honor and REAL freedom as it should be before all these rich ass corrupt politicians stole every damn thing away from us while wrapping themselves in our flag that WE fought to protect and defend, and telling us they ar serving US?!! My ass, they are serving only themselves these corrupt politicians and they will steal what little freedom we have left any day now!

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  177. LONG LIVE THE SOA!!! BEST SHOW EVER MADE!!!

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  178. GO CRY SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU FUCKING PUSSIES LIKE ON YOUR MOMMIES TITS! WHILE YOUR THERE TELL ME IF YOU CAN SMELL MY NUTZ!!!

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  179. s.o.a.- true 1%ers, know. i dont have to say it, the boy scouts of anarchy are entertaining, but the truth is if they were to where there (colors) in public the world
    would be shy many ( foolish ) but talented actors-SHOTGUNTOM

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  180. shadow_of_eagles12/14/2009 06:05:00 AM

    Never seen the show. Could care less. Been riding for nearly 50 years, indy, but ride have hung with several patch holders. Some are great peeps, some are jerks- just like every other group of people on this earth. Life is about the ride and paying it forward. One man's humble opiniom.

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  181. This show makes the Soprano look like the Simpsons. Its way better then Sopranos ever was and I am a big Sopranos fan! I have never ever been effected by a show on TV like this show! I have never wanted revenge on anyone like I wanted against the League!! I am addicted to this like it was crack, heroin and jib all mixed up into one super drug! Don't diss SAMCRO or else!!

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  182. You know what I read all these comments made by all you wanna be bikers calling yourself 1%er's! You know what if you guys are real like you say you are then you wouldn't be on here running your lip! Man it makes me sick you bunch of whinny lil bitches. Talking shit about a TV show saying its a disgrace to the real MC world! Fuck off they don't try to call themselves 1%er's theirs nothing on their patches that indicate that they are 1%ers. They are a independent club and if you ask me, someone who has been around 1%er club most of my life, my dad being a 1%er. That this show doesn't try to be something its not.

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  183. I love the show, as I did the Sopranos. I do wear a three piece in California, and you know what that makes me think about the show, nothing, because it is a show. A brother of mine road with the Mayans as an extra, he had fun got paid met the crew, they totally respect our world and know that it is not where they belong. A patch is always earned, never given to you. By the way, to the guy who commented that bikers have a poor intellect, I have a two Bachelors, and Masters, and you.....

    Support Your Local
    Red and Black

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  184. Anonymous, 7/14/2008 07:50:00 AM

    I have read quite a few of these posts and the pig ass badge holder seems to think we are "crying" about everything...hmm, seems we are just waiting to see how hollywood portrays us to be. Looks like a good hour of tv to me. As far as whining about being judged...well let em judge us because if they knew what things were like in "our world" they would be both impressed and scared. Yea pig, I said scared. You have a gun and badge that you hide behind, I got a leather vest that I stand in front of and will die for. I garuntee you are one of those 5 foot nothing napoleonic idiot bacon greasers that harass us just so you have a story to tell your cosmotoligist girlfriend. You sound like a one man army trying to save the world from big bad bikers. I dont ask to be left alone. This is my life 24/7. I do ask every cop, state trooper, and sherriff that has ever rummaged thru my saddlebags and tried to confiscate my vest the same thing. Where do you hang out when your off duty? Not a one of you have the balls to EVER encounter a true 1%er in our relm.
    You freakin pigs I tell ya. Pull over every rider with a patch, that way all the drug dealers and drunk cage drivers can roll on thru. I dig the reputation we have out there. When we walk into a bar, or hell even a resturaunt and a mother wants to have her picture taken with us, or little kids want to stand on thier chairs to see us park our sleds like the presidents own Marines(I was one muther f%$#er)I get satisfactions in knowing it was you pigs and the discovery channel that got us here. Do they fear us? No, but gen pop wont take a chance and test us. Do they leave just because we show up?No, they are curious about us now. Gotta love it officer pigman. You got no clue what it means to be a 1%er and that lack of knowledge from the gen public is what they love.
    Anyway, I know you have bikers to shoot and shakedown and what not so I bid thee a sizzling farewell.

    1%er Illinois

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  185. I come from a biker family that has been part of a Cali. chapter of the Hells Angels for many, many years and one family member still runs a chapter down there. One of my uncles best friends who is still an acting member of the Hells Angels says that Sons of Anarchy is the closest thing you can get to what its really like out in the motorcycle world. We also all very much enjoy the show.

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  186. I don't know if anyone will read this as it is alittle since the show as aired two seasons already. I will say one thing from reading this and being raised around the club. Chaos seems to be one of few that add a name. to those that are chicken to name themselves and want to say their piece grow a set. As for the show it was pretty real inside the club scenes but as the out in the public AFT would never roll over like that.
    try being a biker and pull a gun out and runs down a street with colors on lmao national guard will be right behind ya along FBI and the seven pigs already tailing you cause ya got colors on. Well it was a pretty good show and I give thumbs up for the fact that it shows that some bikers have a heart. which those of you in and around the club know this to be very true. RIde free to all those fathers and grandfathers and sons....

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  187. having a patch on your back doesn't mean your in an MC...riding a motorcycle doesn't make you a biker, I could put a patch on my back doesn't mean shit. TV is what it's meant to be... entertainment...anyways why do you care what the the writers of the show do, it's not like the show is named after your so-called MC...SOA is a great show and the cast is great and if you don't like it change the fucking station

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  188. totally agree i ride been riding for 30years. Love my bike, my kids, my wife and family. Have been around and there are some great people on bikes. If you belong to a club whatever if your a true outlaw biker then you give the rest of us a bad name. As for the show Excellent have not missed an episode great tv drama. I will ride til im in the ground

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